Been there! And that would have been the signpost, aha! *laughing* Mind the "Doesn’t make any sense", though. The German translation "Macht (k)einen Sinn" would have pointed elsewhere.
On 12 Mai, 17:06, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > Field Effects > > "Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing > There is a field. > I’ll meet you there. > When the soul lies down in that grass, > The world is too full to talk about. > Ideas, language, even the phrase each other > Doesn’t make any sense." > > - Jelaluddin Rumi > > I found this quote in a paper I am reading on collective > consciousness. Seems to fit well in this thread, yes?Here's the link > to the paper by Robert Kenny; > > http://www.collectivewisdominitiative.org/papers/kenny_science.htm > > On May 12, 10:38 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 12 May, 15:32, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I need to pray to a personal God- not Jesus or the Holy Ghost or some > > > mathematical possibility. In this regard, I suppose it is akin to the > > > psalms. I certainly had years of Catholic ritual but like many friends > > > fell away from attendance when the Latin Mass was replaced with > > > vernacular services, guitars, advances from strangers, etc. Maybe > > > there was a Jewish link that was covered over- who knows? At any rate, > > > I no longer feel comfortable going to any church- and I have tried in > > > the past- protestant, unitarian, Catholic catechumen classes= no dice. > > > My prayers assume the unconditional love of God- that's what Hobbes > > > taught me. > > > And it's a vital part of Islam. > > > > On May 11, 8:57 am, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I believe that Slip is coming from his own 'cosmic' vantage point, so > > > > to speak.My personal beliefs always come into play when expressing > > > > myself and, though not always agreed upon by others, they are no less > > > > relevant to our cosmic co-existance. The fact that I can relate to his > > > > way of thinking is in no way contrary to my theistic veiws. It is only > > > > natural to to look to our experiences to help support our beliefs and > > > > when I look to my own I can see times when there was serious doubt > > > > about the existance of any God. I may have scraped the whole notion > > > > had not other thing occured to re-enforce what I already 'knew'. There > > > > are many 'reasons' not to believe but the reasons to believe far out > > > > weigh them for me. > > > > > On May 11, 7:34 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On 11 May, 09:49, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I have seen too many surprise turn-arounds to think money is the > > > > > > measure of anything and no one knows how they will end their days. > > > > > > Plus all babies are born pretty much the same, aren't they? Why not > > > > > > say your parents were dirt poor or filthy rich or whatever? > > > > > > I think Slip was saying that his personal wealth was gained through > > > > > self discovery and that he really wasn't speaking of material wealth. > > > > > Unless I read his heart incorrectly. > > > > > > > On May 10, 8:41 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Really dude, stop whatever you are doing, get a grip, we don't > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > any "Need" to be "Supreme" and there is no drive to become > > > > > > > anything > > > > > > > more than what we are except by people like you that constantly > > > > > > > push > > > > > > > this idea on the world. > > > > > > > The universe is just there, accept it. > > > > > > > You want a God because of all your own personal inadequacies > > > > > > > which you > > > > > > > want to attribute to something "out there". > > > > > > > There is nothing out there except other planets, stars and other > > > > > > > theories of strings and things. > > > > > > > Take control of yourself and your world because that is all you > > > > > > > have, > > > > > > > from birth to death. > > > > > > > Stop trying to comprehend the "HIM" when there is no him. > > > > > > > There is only you and the 24 hour period of time you have to spend > > > > > > > your day. > > > > > > > Stop wasting your days worrying about anything beyond your own > > > > > > > personal space. > > > > > > > I was born in abject poverty and the day I discovered "ME", was > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > day I realized my richness. There is nothing out there that is > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > than what is within "YOU". > > > > > > > I am happy to say that I am wealthy today because I put stock > > > > > > > into my > > > > > > > person and not into some fantasy deity who is all knowing and a > > > > > > > vindictive control freak, and of course to whom I was supposed to > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > 10% of my earnings to which actually goes to the purveyors of such > > > > > > > dead meat. > > > > > > > Keep falling for the bullshit and that is what you are going to > > > > > > > wind > > > > > > > up in. > > > > > > > > On May 7, 9:53 am, RP <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > God is the mind which concieves the universe , He is the mind > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > runs it, and He is the mind which destroys it. He does not see > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > manner in which we see each other and He does not act in the > > > > > > > > manner in > > > > > > > > which we act. His awareness and action is transcendental in > > > > > > > > nature. In > > > > > > > > our vanity we may pretend to comprehend Him, but we do not see > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > accept the fact that our intelligence is not infinite but only > > > > > > > > a few > > > > > > > > grades above that of animals. We have to just look at animals to > > > > > > > > realise that , after all our understanding also is finite. We > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > learning and growing day by day , but we are far from being > > > > > > > > Supreme.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -
