Just out of curiosity, have you ever tried to see the world around you out of your letter world, Pat?
On 12 Mai, 16:05, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On 12 May, 13:52, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Interesting that the apparition that you describe here and I believe > > in another thread uses the name Azrael.The translation to this name is > > literally the one who God helps. > > Actually, I'd say it's "The Helper of God", i.e., the other way > around. But, yes. I have mentioned him before. > > >In Kabalistic lore this is the name > > of the angel of death or Malak al-Maut in Islam. Though the name > > Azrael is not referenced in the Koran it is the same character. > > Again, correct. "Izra'il" is mentioned in hadith but not the Qur'an. > But, yes, it was the Angel of Death. But the whole story, if > disclosed, could reveal enough details to potentially add shame to an > old couple (the parents of the person who posed the threat), so, for > their sake, I won't divulge too much...just in case either of them > have access to the internet and may stumble across it (although they > would be quite old now, it's still possible that one or both are > alive). I wouldn't like to think that I caused them more grief than > he did already. And, as I DID say, he is no longer alive. > > BTW, I studied kabbalah (the REAL stuff, not the Madonna-esque wearing > a red-string and think you're an expert stuff) for several years. > I've read the Zohar twice and have developed an entire way to > interpret a horoscope based on the system of letter-to-planet/sign > attributes laid down in the Sefer Yetzirah (which MAY be 'the scroll > of Abraham' alluded to in the Qur'an) with pretty amazing results. > I'd also strongly recommend 'The Bahir' as a book worth reading and re- > reading. > > > On May 12, 7:50 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 11 May, 23:18, Manfraco Frank Elder <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi everybody! > > > > Pat, so you have had this experience of being protected, I have had > > > > this experience too, but mine was real: > > > > So was mine...real, that is. I've named the entity in my response to > > > Gabby. I've only seen him once, but, I expect to see him again; just, > > > hopefully, not for a few years. ;-) > > > > >One day I was walking on this > > > > footpath, when two or three young people jumped out of a car, one of > > > > them said we are going to bash you, I was scared but kept walking on > > > > as if I had not heard him, he repeated his threat and was about to > > > > charge me when a large strong man came to my rescue and took my place, > > > > and staring in this young chap face he said; you mean to bash me and > > > > who is going to do the bashing!? hmmm! > > > > Suddenly these youths realised that they were no mach with this man > > > > and jumped in the car and off they went. > > > > > RP, > > > > <God is the mind which concieves the universe , He is the mind which > > > > runs it, and He is the mind which destroys it. He does not see in the > > > > manner in which we see each other and He does not act in the manner > > > > in > > > > which we act. His awareness and action is transcendental in nature.> > > > > I personally agree with your description of God, except for the > > > > phrase, "he is the mind which destroys it'', because in my belief God > > > > is part of the whole cosmos and therefore God will never want to > > > > destroy himself. > > > > > SP, > > > > You that dreams about going around in the universe, and in your dreams > > > > you have to be part of the cosmos and you want to know if there is a > > > > way that links everything together, I am wondering why you do not go > > > > along with the idea expressed in this thread? > > > > My regards > > > > Manfraco > > > > > On May 12, 12:52 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On 11 May, 14:57, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I believe that Slip is coming from his own 'cosmic' vantage point, > > > > > > so > > > > > > to speak.My personal beliefs always come into play when expressing > > > > > > myself and, though not always agreed upon by others, they are no > > > > > > less > > > > > > relevant to our cosmic co-existance. The fact that I can relate to > > > > > > his > > > > > > way of thinking is in no way contrary to my theistic veiws. It is > > > > > > only > > > > > > natural to to look to our experiences to help support our beliefs > > > > > > and > > > > > > when I look to my own I can see times when there was serious doubt > > > > > > about the existance of any God. I may have scraped the whole notion > > > > > > had not other thing occured to re-enforce what I already 'knew'. > > > > > > There > > > > > > are many 'reasons' not to believe but the reasons to believe far out > > > > > > weigh them for me. > > > > > > I agree. In fact, if it weren't for one particularly strange > > > > > experience, I might still be in doubt. But it's those 'rare' events > > > > > that don't happen to most people that, when they DO happen to one of > > > > > us, is absolutely convincing. In my own case, I was confronted with > > > > > an entity that, for most of us, would remain 'unseen'. But it was > > > > > given a visible form and served to protect me against a potential > > > > > threat to my life. The individual who posed that threat has been dead > > > > > for some 14 years, now; but, I am still here. So, the apparition > > > > > worked!! > > > > > > > On May 11, 7:34 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 11 May, 09:49, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have seen too many surprise turn-arounds to think money is the > > > > > > > > measure of anything and no one knows how they will end their > > > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > Plus all babies are born pretty much the same, aren't they? Why > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > say your parents were dirt poor or filthy rich or whatever? > > > > > > > > I think Slip was saying that his personal wealth was gained > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > self discovery and that he really wasn't speaking of material > > > > > > > wealth. > > > > > > > Unless I read his heart incorrectly. > > > > > > > > > On May 10, 8:41 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Really dude, stop whatever you are doing, get a grip, we > > > > > > > > > don't have > > > > > > > > > any "Need" to be "Supreme" and there is no drive to become > > > > > > > > > anything > > > > > > > > > more than what we are except by people like you that > > > > > > > > > constantly push > > > > > > > > > this idea on the world. > > > > > > > > > The universe is just there, accept it. > > > > > > > > > You want a God because of all your own personal inadequacies > > > > > > > > > which you > > > > > > > > > want to attribute to something "out there". > > > > > > > > > There is nothing out there except other planets, stars and > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > theories of strings and things. > > > > > > > > > Take control of yourself and your world because that is all > > > > > > > > > you have, > > > > > > > > > from birth to death. > > > > > > > > > Stop trying to comprehend the "HIM" when there is no him. > > > > > > > > > There is only you and the 24 hour period of time you have to > > > > > > > > > spend > > > > > > > > > your day. > > > > > > > > > Stop wasting your days worrying about anything beyond your own > > > > > > > > > personal space. > > > > > > > > > I was born in abject poverty and the day I discovered "ME", > > > > > > > > > was the > > > > > > > > > day I realized my richness. There is nothing out there that > > > > > > > > > is more > > > > > > > > > than what is within "YOU". > > > > > > > > > I am happy to say that I am wealthy today because I put stock > > > > > > > > > into my > > > > > > > > > person and not into some fantasy deity who is all knowing and > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > vindictive control freak, and of course to whom I was > > > > > > > > > supposed to give > > > > > > > > > 10% of my earnings to which actually goes to the purveyors of > > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > dead meat. > > > > > > > > > Keep falling for the bullshit and that is what you are going > > > > > > > > > to wind > > > > > > > > > up in. > > > > > > > > > > On May 7, 9:53 am, RP <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > God is the mind which concieves the universe , He is the > > > > > > > > > > mind which > > > > > > > > > > runs it, and He is the mind which destroys it. He does not > > > > > > > > > > see in the > > > > > > > > > > manner in which we see each other and He does not act in > > > > > > > > > > the manner in > > > > > > > > > > which we act. His awareness and action is transcendental in > > > > > > > > > > nature. In > > > > > > > > > > our vanity we may pretend to comprehend Him, but we do not > > > > > > > > > > see or > > > > > > > > > > accept the fact that our intelligence is not infinite but > > > > > > > > > > only a few > > > > > > > > > > grades above that of animals. 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