I need to pray to a personal God- not Jesus or the Holy Ghost or some mathematical possibility. In this regard, I suppose it is akin to the psalms. I certainly had years of Catholic ritual but like many friends fell away from attendance when the Latin Mass was replaced with vernacular services, guitars, advances from strangers, etc. Maybe there was a Jewish link that was covered over- who knows? At any rate, I no longer feel comfortable going to any church- and I have tried in the past- protestant, unitarian, Catholic catechumen classes= no dice. My prayers assume the unconditional love of God- that's what Hobbes taught me.
On May 11, 8:57 am, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > I believe that Slip is coming from his own 'cosmic' vantage point, so > to speak.My personal beliefs always come into play when expressing > myself and, though not always agreed upon by others, they are no less > relevant to our cosmic co-existance. The fact that I can relate to his > way of thinking is in no way contrary to my theistic veiws. It is only > natural to to look to our experiences to help support our beliefs and > when I look to my own I can see times when there was serious doubt > about the existance of any God. I may have scraped the whole notion > had not other thing occured to re-enforce what I already 'knew'. There > are many 'reasons' not to believe but the reasons to believe far out > weigh them for me. > > On May 11, 7:34 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 11 May, 09:49, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I have seen too many surprise turn-arounds to think money is the > > > measure of anything and no one knows how they will end their days. > > > Plus all babies are born pretty much the same, aren't they? Why not > > > say your parents were dirt poor or filthy rich or whatever? > > > I think Slip was saying that his personal wealth was gained through > > self discovery and that he really wasn't speaking of material wealth. > > Unless I read his heart incorrectly. > > > > On May 10, 8:41 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Really dude, stop whatever you are doing, get a grip, we don't have > > > > any "Need" to be "Supreme" and there is no drive to become anything > > > > more than what we are except by people like you that constantly push > > > > this idea on the world. > > > > The universe is just there, accept it. > > > > You want a God because of all your own personal inadequacies which you > > > > want to attribute to something "out there". > > > > There is nothing out there except other planets, stars and other > > > > theories of strings and things. > > > > Take control of yourself and your world because that is all you have, > > > > from birth to death. > > > > Stop trying to comprehend the "HIM" when there is no him. > > > > There is only you and the 24 hour period of time you have to spend > > > > your day. > > > > Stop wasting your days worrying about anything beyond your own > > > > personal space. > > > > I was born in abject poverty and the day I discovered "ME", was the > > > > day I realized my richness. There is nothing out there that is more > > > > than what is within "YOU". > > > > I am happy to say that I am wealthy today because I put stock into my > > > > person and not into some fantasy deity who is all knowing and a > > > > vindictive control freak, and of course to whom I was supposed to give > > > > 10% of my earnings to which actually goes to the purveyors of such > > > > dead meat. > > > > Keep falling for the bullshit and that is what you are going to wind > > > > up in. > > > > > On May 7, 9:53 am, RP <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > God is the mind which concieves the universe , He is the mind which > > > > > runs it, and He is the mind which destroys it. He does not see in the > > > > > manner in which we see each other and He does not act in the manner in > > > > > which we act. His awareness and action is transcendental in nature. In > > > > > our vanity we may pretend to comprehend Him, but we do not see or > > > > > accept the fact that our intelligence is not infinite but only a few > > > > > grades above that of animals. We have to just look at animals to > > > > > realise that , after all our understanding also is finite. We are > > > > > learning and growing day by day , but we are far from being Supreme.- > > > > > Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
