You seem to be speaking of darkness in life, in the human order and
fates all about us, and of your discomfort or fears of it !

The Devi sutra says : ... ( You are ) ( established as or evident in )
the great ( all consuming darkness of ) night ...

On May 30, 10:01 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote:
> yeah..chandnibar is one dark movie...
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> On 5/30/10, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Take, for instance, this matter about ' faith.' With all manner of cut
> > and dry approaches converging, painting it as black or white, yes or
> > no, man and God, intellectual and mental or emotional ...  it just
> > makes me wonder if people understand what it is they are talking of !
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> > Madhur Bhandarkar, a film director of some eminence, shares what faith
> > is, as it was, as it worked, in his life. He'd made his first '
> > Trishakti,' a big budget film then, which bombed on the box office.
> > With the public treatment that followed, the avoidance he faced, the
> > humiliations he experienced, his * confidence * lay in tatters, but
> > not his faith ... on God, something external, on himself, working
> > within, such as it is difficult to distinguish the external from the
> > internal, God from his self.
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> > And, many months later, he came back, with his faith, getting the
> > support of few individuals, to put together ' Chandni Bar.' It's
> > history since !
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> > What do people wish to confirm or deny about such faith, the
> > phenomenon, as it is with us, as it works ?  It just is, take it or
> > leave it !  There are few finer individuals than Madhur, in terms of
> > cinematic sensibilities.
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> > The same with ' ego.' Or, ' egotistic ' aplomb we find amongst us. My
> > observation is that those who achieve little with themselves, not
> > necessarily in terms of name or money, are the most affected by this
> > disease !  Those who keep improving, continue to discover, germinating
> > their own better self, are relatively free of the malaise, are more
> > rounded, understanding and peaceful beings.
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> > On May 29, 5:46 pm, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > you are right about structures...we have to construct and de-construct
> > > continously...i guess  its not about the destination but the
> > journey...how
> > > can we ever be sure of wat the destination is....
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> > > On 5/29/10, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > It seems the way I came across to this Group, the ideas and views I
> > > > presented, have affected some people. Pat may be true in saying that
> > > > he'd been thus ' helped.' I do remember communicating with a few
> > > > others through mail.
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> > > > But my query is : so what ?  ...  not to dismiss, but to remind
> > > > ourselves of the duty to go back to our de - anchored view or
> > > > perception, or continue with the search, even as we live it out in the
> > > > world, live out the mind and the concept structures that constitute
> > > > us ...  with the desire to know, reflect and awaken into greater
> > > > peace, from where more loving, effective and fulfilling, and
> > > > regenerative actions proceed.
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> > > > I have no doubt that all well - meaning people are doing the same, in
> > > > their own ways, to consequences appropriate to their own preoccupying
> > > > natures and exigencies, that mean and form us in the middle of things.
> > > > Most are vivacious, cooling off their minds from time to time than
> > > > knowing it. But they are preferable than those who do not rise and
> > > > merely become adept, great adepts but chilling like lords Voldemort,
> > > > dedicated to a specific concept - structure that is deified but only
> > > > because it assures one's own overriding self - importance.
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> > > > Few indeed see the measure of our acceptance of diversity, and of the
> > > > plurality about us, as a definite KPI of love, peace and wisdom in our
> > > > lives. Because for it to be, much of our earned spiritual power,
> > > > happiness and freedom, need to be subsumed in the practice of ' not
> > > > this,' ' not this.'
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> > > > The destination is without all concept structures, of oneself and of
> > > > the other(s).

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