"... On Jul 10, 8:14 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: ..."

> I tend to disagree with the view that men fear
> women.  I think it is the other way around due to centuries of male
> domination and the reality that it could all go backwards at any given
> time especially following a catastrophic global event that cripples
> the modern world, cut off communication and laid waste to the world as
> we know it now.  In such a chaotic situation women would fall back a
> few hundred years.  Women are capable of learning but the truth is
> that if women were the leaders of the world they purport to be they
> would have ruled the world centuries ago.  Men forged the world since
> our primordial beginnings.  Women are where they are today only due to
> political maneuvering.  

Those eons of suppression and domination are Lederer's largest piece
of evidence for the fact that men fear women.

I can easily imagine back in the cave dwelling days -- these early
humans had no idea what caused a woman to grow a child -- it was all
very unknown, mysterious and very fearful to the men.  So the
suppression and domination began and has grown ever since.

Consider the Muslim world where women are so feared they are not
allowed to talk to any men but their own immediate family, they are
forced to cover their bodies from head to toe but for a small slit for
her eyes.  They are not permitted to become educated and the Taliban
even burn and stone young girls to death who try to become educated.
Have you ever seen such a fearful group of men?

I'm pretty certain Lederer is on to something valid.

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