Also a ritual- the Vikings set afire at sea, Inquisition and Salem witch punishments, the Holocaust, Indian wives throwing themselves on a bonfire when their husband dies, etc. But I was also thinking today that the whole notion of of an afterlife might have started with primitive and ancient plant societies when they noticed the return of perennial plants. And certain plants and trees figure in the Greek myths as well.
On Aug 5, 12:27 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > Personally I like the bonfire idea going up in flames on top of a mountain > releasing the soul and returning the ashes to the creators earth.. > Allan > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 6:06 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > Evelyn Waugh- "The Loved One" and "The American Way of Death"?-Jessica > > Mitford? > > > On Aug 4, 10:57 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > One idea was that paradise or an afterlife was invented because real > > > life was hard and filled with suffering- this would appeal to the poor/ > > > ignorant in the case of early Christians. As for pharohs and other > > > ancient rulers who were buried with life possessions and living > > > servants- briefly- they were assumed to deserve immortality. Some have > > > a great fear of burial/suffocation so elaborate caskets and masoleums > > > tried to sooth fears. There are glass covered coffins and some world > > > leaders have used them to display their remains. Copper vaults are > > > added protection for caskets.//Which brings up the relics of saints. > > > Shouldn't their bodies remain intact? What happens to the dead who > > > have few body parts or those buried at sea? Are mummies rejects?//Read > > > a satire on the whole business many years ago- about American funerals > > > and graveyards- maybe from the '60's.//What about the sacrament of > > > Extreme Unction where all your sins are forgiven just before death? > > > Timing is everything! > > > > On Aug 4, 1:21 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > RP No disrespect for any belief system, I personally can not help but > > > > wonder what the original idea or concept was and what people added to > > the > > > > original thought because it sounded good and/or of the desire to > > appear > > > > to be a holy and spiritual person. Just putting out ideas and expanding > > on > > > > them not because they are the truth but because the words sound good > > and > > > > they convinced themselves it is the truth. > > > > nothing is either right or wrong but thinking that makes it so > > > > Allan > > > > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:55 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > A person might have taken many births before this one. According to > > Hindu > > > > > mythology the soul has to pass birth in 8.4 million species before > > getting > > > > > birth in the human species. Also a person might have been born many > > times as > > > > > a human being , what I meant by first life was the very first time a > > soul > > > > > took birth. As he had never taken birth before that , then where were > > his > > > > > karma as a consequence of which he took birth. > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> What I don't get is why he took > > > > >> > birth in his first life? RP > > > > > >> What do you mean by "take" birth? As in a choosing of or a life > > > > >> assigned? > > > > > >> Is there choice in reincarnation? > > > > > >> Also, how could it be known if the prior life was the "first" life? > > > > > >> On Aug 1, 1:41 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > According to the theory of reincarnation a person takes birth as a > > > > >> > consequence of his actions in his past life. > > > > > >> > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He7Ge7Sogrk > > > > > >> > > Does this example seem to give some credence to the idea of > > > > >> > > reincarnation? > > > > > >> > > Where does this Elephant get this ability? > > > > > >> > > Are there random elements of soul/spirit floating about in the > > cosmos? > > > > > >> > > Or is this simply a product of a serious trainer animal > > relationship? > > > > > >> > > What are your thoughts on this? > > >http://www.exoticworldgifts.com/Categories.bok?category=Elephant%20Pa. > > > > >> .. > > > > > >> > > I don't see too much variety in the compositions other than the > > > > >> > > repetitive elephant pose and the floral arrangements so I'm > > > > >> > > wondering. > > > > > -- > > > > ( > > > > ) > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > Be Paranoid. > > > > God is always building a better idiot!!!- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > Be Paranoid. > God is always building a better idiot!!!- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
