origin On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:48 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> interesting thought as to the orugin of after life > Allan > > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:55 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Also a ritual- the Vikings set afire at sea, Inquisition and Salem >> witch punishments, the Holocaust, Indian wives throwing themselves on >> a bonfire when their husband dies, etc. But I was also thinking today >> that the whole notion of of an afterlife might have started with >> primitive and ancient plant societies when they noticed the return of >> perennial plants. And certain plants and trees figure in the Greek >> myths as well. >> >> On Aug 5, 12:27 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Personally I like the bonfire idea going up in flames on top of a >> mountain >> > releasing the soul and returning the ashes to the creators earth.. >> > Allan >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 6:06 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > Evelyn Waugh- "The Loved One" and "The American Way of Death"?-Jessica >> > > Mitford? >> > >> > > On Aug 4, 10:57 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > One idea was that paradise or an afterlife was invented because real >> > > > life was hard and filled with suffering- this would appeal to the >> poor/ >> > > > ignorant in the case of early Christians. As for pharohs and other >> > > > ancient rulers who were buried with life possessions and living >> > > > servants- briefly- they were assumed to deserve immortality. Some >> have >> > > > a great fear of burial/suffocation so elaborate caskets and >> masoleums >> > > > tried to sooth fears. There are glass covered coffins and some world >> > > > leaders have used them to display their remains. Copper vaults are >> > > > added protection for caskets.//Which brings up the relics of saints. >> > > > Shouldn't their bodies remain intact? What happens to the dead who >> > > > have few body parts or those buried at sea? Are mummies >> rejects?//Read >> > > > a satire on the whole business many years ago- about American >> funerals >> > > > and graveyards- maybe from the '60's.//What about the sacrament of >> > > > Extreme Unction where all your sins are forgiven just before death? >> > > > Timing is everything! >> > >> > > > On Aug 4, 1:21 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > RP No disrespect for any belief system, I personally can not >> help but >> > > > > wonder what the original idea or concept was and what people added >> to >> > > the >> > > > > original thought because it sounded good and/or of the desire >> to >> > > appear >> > > > > to be a holy and spiritual person. Just putting out ideas and >> expanding >> > > on >> > > > > them not because they are the truth but because the words sound >> good >> > > and >> > > > > they convinced themselves it is the truth. >> > > > > nothing is either right or wrong but thinking that makes it so >> > > > > Allan >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:55 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > > > > A person might have taken many births before this one. According >> to >> > > Hindu >> > > > > > mythology the soul has to pass birth in 8.4 million species >> before >> > > getting >> > > > > > birth in the human species. Also a person might have been born >> many >> > > times as >> > > > > > a human being , what I meant by first life was the very first >> time a >> > > soul >> > > > > > took birth. As he had never taken birth before that , then where >> were >> > > his >> > > > > > karma as a consequence of which he took birth. >> > >> > > > > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > > > > >> What I don't get is why he took >> > > > > >> > birth in his first life? RP >> > >> > > > > >> What do you mean by "take" birth? As in a choosing of or a >> life >> > > > > >> assigned? >> > >> > > > > >> Is there choice in reincarnation? >> > >> > > > > >> Also, how could it be known if the prior life was the "first" >> life? >> > >> > > > > >> On Aug 1, 1:41 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > >> > According to the theory of reincarnation a person takes birth >> as a >> > > > > >> > consequence of his actions in his past life. >> > >> > > > > >> > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected] >> > >> > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He7Ge7Sogrk >> > >> > > > > >> > > Does this example seem to give some credence to the idea of >> > > > > >> > > reincarnation? >> > >> > > > > >> > > Where does this Elephant get this ability? >> > >> > > > > >> > > Are there random elements of soul/spirit floating about in >> the >> > > cosmos? >> > >> > > > > >> > > Or is this simply a product of a serious trainer animal >> > > relationship? >> > >> > > > > >> > > What are your thoughts on this? >> > >> > >http://www.exoticworldgifts.com/Categories.bok?category=Elephant%20Pa. >> > > > > >> .. >> > >> > > > > >> > > I don't see too much variety in the compositions other than >> the >> > > > > >> > > repetitive elephant pose and the floral arrangements so I'm >> > > > > >> > > wondering. >> > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > ( >> > > > > ) >> > > > > I_D Allan >> > >> > > > > Be Paranoid. >> > > > > God is always building a better idiot!!!- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > - Show quoted text - >> > >> > -- >> > ( >> > ) >> > I_D Allan >> > >> > Be Paranoid. >> > God is always building a better idiot!!!- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > - Show quoted text - >> > > > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > Be Paranoid. > God is always building a better idiot!!! > -- ( ) I_D Allan Be Paranoid. God is always building a better idiot!!!
