Yes- there is an explanation of the extremes of life- an inability of nations to think and act globally.//Passion is not peaceful and would eliminate great joys in life and art.//If Hell is also eternal, what does that say about a notion of the God of the Last Judgement?//Nature is indifferent. I doubt the floods in Pakistan and China get as much attention as when we can start fishing shrimp in the Gulf again.
On Aug 8, 2:56 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > Supreme peace is wonderful but you are posting on a great deal of > assumption. What occurs in one life does not necessarily have to > carry over into another life; assuming that there is an afterlife; no > one knows for sure and no one has ever come back with any certainty or > proof. If there is an afterlife then one may experience pain and > suffering in one life and experience a life of luxury and grandeur in > the next; a life filled with wealth and security. There are people > who are living wonderful lives at the same time others are living > horrible lives of suffering; why this is we cannot explain; it just > is. Attaining a oneness with God is based on the assumption that > there is a God which has been nothing more than theory and conjecture > throughout the history of mankind. No God has ever appeared to > establish existence and so the notion remains speculation and only > exists in the minds of people who want to believe in it. I merely > present the idea that afterlife is highly possible given the elements > that contribute to the possibility. I wouldn't venture to guess what > quality of life one would have during multiple experiences of > existence. I prefer to think that I have lived before and will live > again and have accumulated life experiences that contribute to my > persona. Many people are born with extraordinary abilities while > others are born with absolutely nothing aside from minimal brain > capacity so I wonder how else can we explain that phenomena other than > previous life experience. > > On Aug 8, 9:37 am, RP <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Don't you think it is better to attain supreme peace than to have > > alternating consciousness of sorrow and elation. Don't you think a > > person suffering greatly from acute pain of an irreversible disease > > should be given mercy killing? Is not one life of uncertainties > > enough for us than to cherish innumerable lifes? Yogis of yore made > > great efforts to escape the cycle of birth and death , desiring > > Moksha. The ultimate object was to attain oneness with God , whatever > > that state of being might be , I cannot say as I have never > > experienced it. But whatever that might be , I would still like to > > attain to it. > > > On Aug 8, 6:03 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I guess that is the case; all afterlife must be happening somewhere if > > > not here. It all makes more sense to me in this day and age on > > > account of cosmic knowledge, parallel universe and string theories. > > > I'm more convinced now of afterlife than ever just based on the > > > intensity of my lucid dreams. One could easily die in sleep and > > > remain within an occurring dream while the rest of the world views the > > > cadaver as simply being dead and gone. The dead dreamer no longer has > > > the physical capacity to return to the presence of the viewers at the > > > funeral and so either remains in the dream or drifts about for an > > > opportunity to incarnate. > > > > On Aug 7, 4:12 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > if you look at the thought as the origin of rebirth coming from the > > > > plant > > > > life.. it would seem logical that that life would have to go some > > > > where,, > > > > and considering the amount of natural hallucinogen out there,, a > > > > hallucination could easily be called a ghost.. > > > > all of which would contribute to the idea of rebirth.. > > > > Allan > > > > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I love the Greek myths but I wouldn't discount the appearance of > > > > > apparitions more commonly known as ghosts as pointing toward the idea > > > > > of afterlife. Appearances may have been more common in primitive > > > > > times but also emphasis should be placed on the importance of the > > > > > dream realm and what it represented to the ancients. One may have > > > > > dreamed of encounters with deceased relatives and then reported to > > > > > others that they are living in some afterlife world. There wasn't any > > > > > Freudian psycho analysis to explain otherwise at the time. > > > > > > On Aug 5, 5:55 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Also a ritual- the Vikings set afire at sea, Inquisition and Salem > > > > > > witch punishments, the Holocaust, Indian wives throwing themselves > > > > > > on > > > > > > a bonfire when their husband dies, etc. But I was also thinking > > > > > > today > > > > > > that the whole notion of of an afterlife might have started with > > > > > > primitive and ancient plant societies when they noticed the return > > > > > > of > > > > > > perennial plants. And certain plants and trees figure in the Greek > > > > > > myths as well. > > > > > > > On Aug 5, 12:27 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Personally I like the bonfire idea going up in flames on top of a > > > > > mountain > > > > > > > releasing the soul and returning the ashes to the creators earth.. > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 6:06 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Evelyn Waugh- "The Loved One" and "The American Way of > > > > > Death"?-Jessica > > > > > > > > Mitford? > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 10:57 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > One idea was that paradise or an afterlife was invented > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > real > > > > > > > > > life was hard and filled with suffering- this would appeal to > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > poor/ > > > > > > > > > ignorant in the case of early Christians. As for pharohs and > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > ancient rulers who were buried with life possessions and > > > > > > > > > living > > > > > > > > > servants- briefly- they were assumed to deserve immortality. > > > > > > > > > Some > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > a great fear of burial/suffocation so elaborate caskets and > > > > > masoleums > > > > > > > > > tried to sooth fears. There are glass covered coffins and some > > > > > world > > > > > > > > > leaders have used them to display their remains. Copper > > > > > > > > > vaults are > > > > > > > > > added protection for caskets.//Which brings up the relics of > > > > > saints. > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't their bodies remain intact? What happens to the > > > > > > > > > dead who > > > > > > > > > have few body parts or those buried at sea? Are mummies > > > > > rejects?//Read > > > > > > > > > a satire on the whole business many years ago- about American > > > > > funerals > > > > > > > > > and graveyards- maybe from the '60's.//What about the > > > > > > > > > sacrament of > > > > > > > > > Extreme Unction where all your sins are forgiven just before > > > > > > > > > death? > > > > > > > > > Timing is everything! > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 1:21 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > RP No disrespect for any belief system, I personally can > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > help but > > > > > > > > > > wonder what the original idea or concept was and what people > > > > > added to > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > original thought because it sounded good and/or of the > > > > > desire to > > > > > > > > appear > > > > > > > > > > to be a holy and spiritual person. Just putting out ideas > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > expanding > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > them not because they are the truth but because the words > > > > > > > > > > sound > > > > > good > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > they convinced themselves it is the truth. > > > > > > > > > > nothing is either right or wrong but thinking that makes it > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:55 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > A person might have taken many births before this one. > > > > > According to > > > > > > > > Hindu > > > > > > > > > > > mythology the soul has to pass birth in 8.4 million > > > > > > > > > > > species > > > > > before > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > > birth in the human species. Also a person might have been > > > > > > > > > > > born > > > > > many > > > > > > > > times as > > > > > > > > > > > a human being , what I meant by first life was the very > > > > > > > > > > > first > > > > > time a > > > > > > > > soul > > > > > > > > > > > took birth. As he had never taken birth before that , then > > > > > where were > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > karma as a consequence of which he took birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Slip Disc > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> What I don't get is why he took > > > > > > > > > > >> > birth in his first life? RP > > > > > > > > > > > >> What do you mean by "take" birth? As in a choosing of > > > > > > > > > > >> or a > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > >> assigned? > > > > > > > > > > > >> Is there choice in reincarnation? > > > > > > > > > > > >> Also, how could it be known if the prior life was the > > > > > > > > > > >> "first" > > > > > life? > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Aug 1, 1:41 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > According to the theory of reincarnation a person takes > > > > > birth as a > > > > > > > > > > >> > consequence of his actions in his past life. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Slip Disc < > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He7Ge7Sogrk > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Does this example seem to give some credence to the > > > > > > > > > > >> > > idea > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > >> > > reincarnation? > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Where does this Elephant get this ability? > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Are there random elements of soul/spirit floating > > > > > > > > > > >> > > about in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > cosmos? > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Or is this simply a product of a serious trainer > > > > > > > > > > >> > > animal > > > > > > > > relationship? > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > What are your thoughts on this? > > > > > > > > >http://www.exoticworldgifts.com/Categories.bok?category=Elephant%20Pa > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > >> .. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > I don't see too much variety in the compositions > > > > > > > > > > >> > > other > > > > > than the > > > > > > > > > > >> > > repetitive elephant pose and the floral arrangements > > > > > > > > > > >> > > so > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > > > >> > > wondering. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > ( > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
