Common sense would help, but perhaps that comes with experience. If
our well intentioned man considered the nature of starvation with some
knowledge, perhaps taught from his culture or someone else's he might
think chicken noodle soup and water or fruits and vegetables containing
sugars and electrolytes.
On 9/13/2010 3:25 PM, DarkwaterBlight wrote:
It is obvious to me that all the starving man would require is the
wine and perhaps some bread! Do I need to be a christian to relize
this?
On Sep 13, 1:39 pm, Alan Wostenberg<[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, you "can have a feeling of responsibility towards society and
consider it your duty towards it and do what is good for you and the
others". But what have feelings to do with doing good?
A man comes upon a starving man, knowing little about human nature,
offers him a good thick steak and a glass of wine. But the starving
man cannot digest the food. The first man had a sincere "feeling of
responsibility", and really wanted to "do what is good for the other",
but utterly botched it, because he is ignorant of what is really good
for the other man.
No doubt those with a "humanitarian mindset" mean well, and act in
accord with what they believe is good for fellow humans, just like the
Jihadist, or the mercy killer who euthanizes the sick patient, or the
abortionist, or Hitler. Everybody does what he /believes/ to be good
for his fellow man. But only those who /know/ what is good for their
neighbor can consistently deliver.
On the Christian view, if we do not know Christ, we do not know what
man is, so it is quite impossible to do good for man, except by
accident.
On Sep 13, 10:30 am, RP Singh<[email protected]> wrote:
A person can have a humanitarian mindset regardless of religion. You don't
have to believe in God to be good , you can have a feeling of responsibility
towards society and consider it your duty towards it and do what is good
for you and the others. Patriots need not be religious , yet they feel a
great responsibility towards their country. There are so many motives for a
man to do good to others irrespective of religion. On the other hand people
are known to indulge in vice and ask God's forgiveness later.
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Alan Wostenberg<[email protected]> wrote:
Sure, "helping is primal". But the Jihadist, having a different
theology than the Christian, believes he is helping you by converting
you to Islam by the sword. Not so the Christian, for whom religion is
the "The voluntary subjection of oneself to God".
The island of atheists? Sure, they'd "help others" for some definition
of "help" and "others". I know something about the Christian command
to love my neighbor but don't know the official atheist dogma on
helping others. If one acted like there were no God why would he
think he has any duty to help others?
On Sep 12, 8:28 am, Slip Disc<[email protected]> wrote:
AW;
Yes there is.............
I'll refer you to rigsy's sept. 6 10:15 am post as to my "theistic
religiosity" comment.
Also, people use therapy and AA like a religion- in fact, they "use" a
lot of things in lieu of religion. What about jingoism?<<<rigsy
Do you think no one would help anyone else on an island of atheists
because they didn't have a religion to tell them to do so? Helping
is primal and innate as nurturing; religion and faith is human
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