More nonsense AW? ............so it is quite impossible to do good for man, except by accident???
Really, wow what a preposterous notion. I guess science, technology and the great strides and advancement in the medical industry is no match for this mythical christ person. Whether the person historically existed is questionable but the whole notion of a virgin birth, son of god, miracle worker etc etc etc is mythical at best. It is all so obvious to me that it all comes down to man's pathetic quest to become a god and so through these stories man has become god. Man has made himself holy, man has made himself god. Go on and worship your man god if you want, I don't have any problem with it, I just don't believe any of it. On Sep 13, 12:39 pm, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, you "can have a feeling of responsibility towards society and > consider it your duty towards it and do what is good for you and the > others". But what have feelings to do with doing good? > > A man comes upon a starving man, knowing little about human nature, > offers him a good thick steak and a glass of wine. But the starving > man cannot digest the food. The first man had a sincere "feeling of > responsibility", and really wanted to "do what is good for the other", > but utterly botched it, because he is ignorant of what is really good > for the other man. > > No doubt those with a "humanitarian mindset" mean well, and act in > accord with what they believe is good for fellow humans, just like the > Jihadist, or the mercy killer who euthanizes the sick patient, or the > abortionist, or Hitler. Everybody does what he /believes/ to be good > for his fellow man. But only those who /know/ what is good for their > neighbor can consistently deliver. > > On the Christian view, if we do not know Christ, we do not know what > man is, so it is quite impossible to do good for man, except by > accident. > > On Sep 13, 10:30 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > A person can have a humanitarian mindset regardless of religion. You don't > > have to believe in God to be good , you can have a feeling of responsibility > > towards society and consider it your duty towards it and do what is good > > for you and the others. Patriots need not be religious , yet they feel a > > great responsibility towards their country. There are so many motives for a > > man to do good to others irrespective of religion. On the other hand people > > are known to indulge in vice and ask God's forgiveness later. > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sure, "helping is primal". But the Jihadist, having a different > > > theology than the Christian, believes he is helping you by converting > > > you to Islam by the sword. Not so the Christian, for whom religion is > > > the "The voluntary subjection of oneself to God". > > > > The island of atheists? Sure, they'd "help others" for some definition > > > of "help" and "others". I know something about the Christian command > > > to love my neighbor but don't know the official atheist dogma on > > > helping others. If one acted like there were no God why would he > > > think he has any duty to help others? > > > > On Sep 12, 8:28 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > AW; > > > > Yes there is............. > > > > I'll refer you to rigsy's sept. 6 10:15 am post as to my "theistic > > > > religiosity" comment. > > > > > Also, people use therapy and AA like a religion- in fact, they "use" a > > > > lot of things in lieu of religion. What about jingoism? <<<rigsy > > > > > Do you think no one would help anyone else on an island of atheists > > > > because they didn't have a religion to tell them to do so? Helping > > > > is primal and innate as nurturing; religion and faith is human > > > > construct and not necessity.
