Wine has much along the lines of these as well as anti-oxidants. Bread for sustinance...
On Sep 13, 8:15 pm, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > Common sense would help, but perhaps that comes with experience. If > our well intentioned man considered the nature of starvation with some > knowledge, perhaps taught from his culture or someone else's he might > think chicken noodle soup and water or fruits and vegetables containing > sugars and electrolytes. > > On 9/13/2010 3:25 PM, DarkwaterBlight wrote: > > > > > It is obvious to me that all the starving man would require is the > > wine and perhaps some bread! Do I need to be a christian to relize > > this? > > > On Sep 13, 1:39 pm, Alan Wostenberg<[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, you "can have a feeling of responsibility towards society and > >> consider it your duty towards it and do what is good for you and the > >> others". But what have feelings to do with doing good? > > >> A man comes upon a starving man, knowing little about human nature, > >> offers him a good thick steak and a glass of wine. But the starving > >> man cannot digest the food. The first man had a sincere "feeling of > >> responsibility", and really wanted to "do what is good for the other", > >> but utterly botched it, because he is ignorant of what is really good > >> for the other man. > > >> No doubt those with a "humanitarian mindset" mean well, and act in > >> accord with what they believe is good for fellow humans, just like the > >> Jihadist, or the mercy killer who euthanizes the sick patient, or the > >> abortionist, or Hitler. Everybody does what he /believes/ to be good > >> for his fellow man. But only those who /know/ what is good for their > >> neighbor can consistently deliver. > > >> On the Christian view, if we do not know Christ, we do not know what > >> man is, so it is quite impossible to do good for man, except by > >> accident. > > >> On Sep 13, 10:30 am, RP Singh<[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> A person can have a humanitarian mindset regardless of religion. You don't > >>> have to believe in God to be good , you can have a feeling of > >>> responsibility > >>> towards society and consider it your duty towards it and do what is good > >>> for you and the others. Patriots need not be religious , yet they feel a > >>> great responsibility towards their country. There are so many motives for > >>> a > >>> man to do good to others irrespective of religion. On the other hand > >>> people > >>> are known to indulge in vice and ask God's forgiveness later. > >>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Alan Wostenberg<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> Sure, "helping is primal". But the Jihadist, having a different > >>>> theology than the Christian, believes he is helping you by converting > >>>> you to Islam by the sword. Not so the Christian, for whom religion is > >>>> the "The voluntary subjection of oneself to God". > >>>> The island of atheists? Sure, they'd "help others" for some definition > >>>> of "help" and "others". I know something about the Christian command > >>>> to love my neighbor but don't know the official atheist dogma on > >>>> helping others. If one acted like there were no God why would he > >>>> think he has any duty to help others? > >>>> On Sep 12, 8:28 am, Slip Disc<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> AW; > >>>>> Yes there is............. > >>>>> I'll refer you to rigsy's sept. 6 10:15 am post as to my "theistic > >>>>> religiosity" comment. > >>>>> Also, people use therapy and AA like a religion- in fact, they "use" a > >>>>> lot of things in lieu of religion. What about jingoism?<<<rigsy > >>>>> Do you think no one would help anyone else on an island of atheists > >>>>> because they didn't have a religion to tell them to do so? Helping > >>>>> is primal and innate as nurturing; religion and faith is human > >>>>> construct and not necessity.- Hide quoted text - > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
