I would have thought that the motivational effect of pride wears off faster. You see me stand corrected, Allan.
On 15 Sep., 07:47, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > Ash before you belittle AA you need to learn what you are talking about.. > I am a proud member of AA for over 30 years now,, and if it was not for AA I > can assure you I would not be alive.. > What is share there is our experience strength and hope > Allan H. > > You can beat up on a lot of organizations,, aka whipping boy .. and it has > beenmy experience that those that beat upon AA aka whipping boy are the ones > that need AA the most. > > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 9/12/2010 9:47 PM, Slip Disc wrote: > > >> Like most things it depends on who is wielding the book,<<ash > > >> What does it matter who is wielding the book? The issue starts with > >> us, we decide what "advertisements/enticements" we want to follow. > > > I agree partially, having a choice doesn't always beget being able to make > > conscious determinations. The person wielding the book is the one being > > referred to with authority, the character of that authority is in their > > interpretation and motives. Con artists and pedophiles prey on the weak and > > defenseless for example and all sorts of predatory practice is legally > > actionable. If someone isn't equipped mentally or physically for whatever > > reason there is an opportunity for someone to take advantage. I'm only > > saying there is potential danger, however there are stories out there from > > less than grateful ex-members of AA: > > >http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/cult-or-cure-the-aa-backlash-... > >http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-cult_a0.html > > > but I've heard some very disturbing stories about their<ash > > >> Their practices? Who are "their"? > > > This entire paragraph is related to AA, aka the whipping boy for tonight. > > > practices, that combined with psychologically vulnerable people in need of > >>> help opens us a franchise opportunity for all sorts of predatory and > >>> unsavory uses of religion>ash > > >> This is true but not absolute nor all encompassing aside from being > >> totally tangential. > > >> Again, I'll remind<<ash > >> You'll remind or reiterate? Sounds instructional. > > > I agree that sounds 'instructional', it was terse and hurried. 'Remind' > > here is intended as referential, appearing to be a flawed sentence flow, it > > should have read, 'To reiterate' however that would have also been redundant > > and wordy as it would suffice to begin the sentence with 'The utmost > > caution', still instructional. > > > Writing is not my strongest pursuit, obviously, my average post here takes > > a few hours of deliberation where I eventually throw up my hands, chop out > > 70% as useless and say what the hell. > > > that the utmost caution and conscience should be the hallmark, lest it > >>> fall into predatory (deranged) hands. Kudos to those who do it well. > > >> Kudos! ah yes the kudos, can't forget the kudos. Does that come > >> complete with the honorary plaque or just the ribbon? > > > Are you teasing? :p Praiseworthy, again terse, meaning I have respect for > > someone who works to reduce suffering. Moreso for someone who can do it > > while being a force of emancipation. > > > Also, 'in need of help opens us a franchise opportunity' was intended as, > > 'in need of help opens [up] a franchise opportunity'. If anyone here is in > > AA or an alcoholic I mean no disrespect or to single out a person or group, > > this represents an opinion based on an insignificant amount of research of > > which I am not an authority. > > > Most people correlate instruction to some superior stance when I could just > > as easily instruct one how to repeat the steps of a thought or a random > > screwup. In this case the active and emphasized language was meant to stress > > that I wasn't just picking on AA but pointing at the people behind groups as > > responsible for the outcomes, whether good or bad, AA or any other group. > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > Be Paranoid. > God is always building a better idiot!!!
