Humans and conflict huh. I'm sure that we can also all point out conflicts between humans where there has not been any religousity.
Really to make the claim that religoun is the cause of all ills is pretty blind sided, and I would say almost fanatical thinking. On 12 Sep, 19:11, Heebong Kim <[email protected]> wrote: > How about the conflict of these religions? There are many instances of war > breaking out in history that can be lead back to religion, e.g., the Crusades. > > > > > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:32:15 -0400 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: Isn't Religion Wonderful..........? > > > On 9/12/2010 10:28 AM, Slip Disc wrote: > > > AW; > > > Yes there is............. > > > I'll refer you to rigsy's sept. 6 10:15 am post as to my "theistic > > > religiosity" comment. > > > > Also, people use therapy and AA like a religion- in fact, they "use" a > > > lot of things in lieu of religion. What about jingoism?<<<rigsy > > Regarding AA, can cults be considered religion? Like most things it > > depends on who is wielding the book, but I've heard some very disturbing > > stories about their practices, that combined with psychologically > > vulnerable people in need of help opens us a franchise opportunity for > > all sorts of predatory and unsavory uses of religion. Again, I'll remind > > that the utmost caution and conscience should be the hallmark, lest it > > fall into predatory (deranged) hands. Kudos to those who do it well. > > > "An empty stomach is not a good political advisor." Albert E. > > > > Do you think no one would help anyone else on an island of atheists > > > because they didn't have a religion to tell them to do so? Helping > > > is primal and innate as nurturing; religion and faith is human > > > construct and not necessity. > > I think religion and politics often work on absurd reductions. Here's > > another from old Al, "If people are good only because they fear > > punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed. " The > > latter reduction is 'necessity' saying, 'do it now or else' waving flags > > of fear and anxiety. Both together is just a BAD combination, though it > > would be neat to see some universalist group show the others up by doing > > it better. Something like that might emerge in a few hundred years if > > progress continues. Such might be the only ones capable of placing the > > faith in digestible context while promoting the common good and secular > > ethics. The pillars of monotheism are so entrenched in using the > > population for domination they cannot be trusted, despite how great they > > could be for us (and perhaps are). IMO dogmas designed by and for tribal > > wel/war-fare are of no use to evolving our societies except perhaps to > > observe and learn from and sometimes hold them dear. > > > Somewhat on topic, I found this interesting page about 600bce, an early > > enlightenment period?http://www.halexandria.org/dward206.htm.- Hide quoted > > text - > > - Show quoted text -
