Heh, how about a digital hug or handshake. My lady love could be comfortable with that.

You guys are gonna force me to drop this pseudonym, but I'm still having paranoia/anxiety issues on that matter. :p

On 12/11/2010 2:38 AM, iam deheretic wrote:
Hmmmmm .  . . .  blown digital one year kisses! for Ashly
Allan


On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Ash <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Well put DW, I've had a post lingering for followup but didn't
    like how I was coming across. You've summed nicely.

    It is that time of year again, yes I am starting my Hershey's
    Special Dark regimen. Wow, I'm almost a 1yr ME visitor (what do I
    get?).


    On 12/10/2010 10:26 AM, DarkwaterBlight wrote:

        Surely all that is alien to us seems a bit shocking upon the
        interim.
        These conceptions that we are under will change and evolve
        over the
        course of years or hundreds or thousandsof years as required
        by the
        times. It all seems to be rather mystical but is quite natural as
        Tolstoy points out.

        On Dec 10, 6:40 am, rigsy03<[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:

            I think I am more interested in how systems of rarefied
            thought
            motivate cultures and characters. Isn't it existential
            thinking-
            Sartre- that points to will and action as the highest
            human task?//I
            should also correct my flip remark- humanity seems
            impossible rather
            than men, alone. History is one shock after another.

            On Dec 9, 12:57 am, Ash<[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:



                Considering inert matter I think there is a lot of
                information: physical
                properties, spatio/temporal locale, history. History
                is interesting
                because even inert matter would leave a wake. Or under
                the right
                circumstances could play a very important role in some
                event present or
                future. The interesting part of exercising information
                as a higher
                abstraction than physical properties is that things
                are promoted in many
                more angles (sounds like a founding principle, where's
                my pen?!).
                Energy is still as useful a tool as always, I think
                information and
                energy may be synonymous on many levels (some of which
                should prove in
                favor of energy). These are all tools for the mind,
                just showing off my
                shiny new socket wrench (new to me anyways *wink). May
                have
                misunderstood your meaning.
                On 12/8/2010 4:22 PM, rigsy03 wrote:

                    Are you saying there is no such thing as inert
                    matter?//Who pulled the
                    "trigger" to pure energy?
                    On Dec 8, 1:11 pm, Ash<[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>>    wrote:

                        On 12/8/2010 12:26 PM, Pat wrote:

                            On Dec 8, 4:57 pm,
                            DarkwaterBlight<[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>>      wrote:

                                Not to mention that "work" is also
                                kinetic energy! ;)

                            There is nothing that isn't energy.  Well,
                            to my knowledge, I, nor no
                            one of which I know, has discovered
                            anything that isn't some form of
                            energy.  The only argument I can think of
                            that may lead someone there
                            is if someone demanded that 'nothing' had
                            to consist of some
                            underlying substance (although I view that
                            argument as a false
                            premiss, as nothing is simply that which
                            does not exist and has NO
                            substance).  If one conceded an underlying
                            substance to 'nothing',
                            then that substance could be called
                            'non-existence' and MAY, in a
                            twisted way, be viewed as something other
                            than energy; but, as non-
                            existence, by definition, does not exist,
                            one would never find
                            anything--even to the inclusion of a
                            'nothing'--that would be made of
                            it.
                            Like I said, it's the only arguent that
                            leads anywhere close; but, I
                            thik it's a black hole of an idea in that
                            the idea sucks so much, it
                            sucks itself to oblivion.  ;-)

                        An idea I have been enjoying even more than
                        'all is energy' is that "all
                        is information". In my view whereas we can say
                        'all is energy' we mean
                        composition but abstracting any phenomena,
                        object, interaction into
                        types of information promotes a fundamentally
                        universal layer to compare
                        vastly divergent fields: eg the accumulation
                        of density producing
                        gravity (which could be seen as another
                        density in space/time), and the
                        similarities to dynamically evolving, self
                        organizing systems of
                        information (life, virii) as a higher form of
                        information (greater ratio
                        of potential:matter-density) as the formula to
                        understand the
                        similarities and differences of how (factors)
                        each operates within their
                        environments (space/time). This to me would
                        also eventually lead to key
                        identifiers for what we are (potentials),
                        where we are (bounded
                        attraction differentials). A consequence of
                        this system is the inherent
                        intelligence of the cosmos. I can't put it
                        into words well right now,
                        but I see that many earlier ideas have helped
                        spawn this and the name
                        that's stuck with me is 'super-intelligent
                        design'. More pseudoscience
                        than anything really until I can rerun my
                        memory/experiences and get it
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