Heh, how about a digital hug or handshake. My lady love could be
comfortable with that.
You guys are gonna force me to drop this pseudonym, but I'm still having
paranoia/anxiety issues on that matter. :p
On 12/11/2010 2:38 AM, iam deheretic wrote:
Hmmmmm . . . . blown digital one year kisses! for Ashly
Allan
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Ash <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Well put DW, I've had a post lingering for followup but didn't
like how I was coming across. You've summed nicely.
It is that time of year again, yes I am starting my Hershey's
Special Dark regimen. Wow, I'm almost a 1yr ME visitor (what do I
get?).
On 12/10/2010 10:26 AM, DarkwaterBlight wrote:
Surely all that is alien to us seems a bit shocking upon the
interim.
These conceptions that we are under will change and evolve
over the
course of years or hundreds or thousandsof years as required
by the
times. It all seems to be rather mystical but is quite natural as
Tolstoy points out.
On Dec 10, 6:40 am, rigsy03<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I think I am more interested in how systems of rarefied
thought
motivate cultures and characters. Isn't it existential
thinking-
Sartre- that points to will and action as the highest
human task?//I
should also correct my flip remark- humanity seems
impossible rather
than men, alone. History is one shock after another.
On Dec 9, 12:57 am, Ash<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Considering inert matter I think there is a lot of
information: physical
properties, spatio/temporal locale, history. History
is interesting
because even inert matter would leave a wake. Or under
the right
circumstances could play a very important role in some
event present or
future. The interesting part of exercising information
as a higher
abstraction than physical properties is that things
are promoted in many
more angles (sounds like a founding principle, where's
my pen?!).
Energy is still as useful a tool as always, I think
information and
energy may be synonymous on many levels (some of which
should prove in
favor of energy). These are all tools for the mind,
just showing off my
shiny new socket wrench (new to me anyways *wink). May
have
misunderstood your meaning.
On 12/8/2010 4:22 PM, rigsy03 wrote:
Are you saying there is no such thing as inert
matter?//Who pulled the
"trigger" to pure energy?
On Dec 8, 1:11 pm, Ash<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 12/8/2010 12:26 PM, Pat wrote:
On Dec 8, 4:57 pm,
DarkwaterBlight<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Not to mention that "work" is also
kinetic energy! ;)
There is nothing that isn't energy. Well,
to my knowledge, I, nor no
one of which I know, has discovered
anything that isn't some form of
energy. The only argument I can think of
that may lead someone there
is if someone demanded that 'nothing' had
to consist of some
underlying substance (although I view that
argument as a false
premiss, as nothing is simply that which
does not exist and has NO
substance). If one conceded an underlying
substance to 'nothing',
then that substance could be called
'non-existence' and MAY, in a
twisted way, be viewed as something other
than energy; but, as non-
existence, by definition, does not exist,
one would never find
anything--even to the inclusion of a
'nothing'--that would be made of
it.
Like I said, it's the only arguent that
leads anywhere close; but, I
thik it's a black hole of an idea in that
the idea sucks so much, it
sucks itself to oblivion. ;-)
An idea I have been enjoying even more than
'all is energy' is that "all
is information". In my view whereas we can say
'all is energy' we mean
composition but abstracting any phenomena,
object, interaction into
types of information promotes a fundamentally
universal layer to compare
vastly divergent fields: eg the accumulation
of density producing
gravity (which could be seen as another
density in space/time), and the
similarities to dynamically evolving, self
organizing systems of
information (life, virii) as a higher form of
information (greater ratio
of potential:matter-density) as the formula to
understand the
similarities and differences of how (factors)
each operates within their
environments (space/time). This to me would
also eventually lead to key
identifiers for what we are (potentials),
where we are (bounded
attraction differentials). A consequence of
this system is the inherent
intelligence of the cosmos. I can't put it
into words well right now,
but I see that many earlier ideas have helped
spawn this and the name
that's stuck with me is 'super-intelligent
design'. More pseudoscience
than anything really until I can rerun my
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