Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: Eternity

[Ash]

Damn, now I'll fall asleep thinking that information is a type of energy 
AND energy is a type of information. Anyone good at E-RDs?

On 12/9/2010 1:57 AM, Ash wrote:
Considering inert matter I think there is a lot of information: 
physical properties, spatio/temporal locale, history. History is 
interesting because even inert matter would leave a wake. Or under the 
right circumstances could play a very important role in some event 
present or future. The interesting part of exercising information as a 
higher abstraction than physical properties is that things are 
promoted in many more angles (sounds like a founding principle, 
where's my pen?!).

Energy is still as useful a tool as always, I think information and 
energy may be synonymous on many levels (some of which should prove in 
favor of energy). These are all tools for the mind, just showing off 
my shiny new socket wrench (new to me anyways *wink). May have 
misunderstood your meaning.

On 12/8/2010 4:22 PM, rigsy03 wrote:
Are you saying there is no such thing as inert matter?//Who pulled the
"trigger" to pure energy?

On Dec 8, 1:11 pm, Ash<ashkas...@gmail.com>  wrote:
On 12/8/2010 12:26 PM, Pat wrote:





On Dec 8, 4:57 pm, DarkwaterBlight<douglas.bli...@gmail.com>    wrote:
Not to mention that "work" is also kinetic energy! ;)
There is nothing that isn't energy.  Well, to my knowledge, I, nor no
one of which I know, has discovered anything that isn't some form of
energy.  The only argument I can think of that may lead someone there
is if someone demanded that 'nothing' had to consist of some
underlying substance (although I view that argument as a false
premiss, as nothing is simply that which does not exist and has NO
substance).  If one conceded an underlying substance to 'nothing',
then that substance could be called 'non-existence' and MAY, in a
twisted way, be viewed as something other than energy; but, as non-
existence, by definition, does not exist, one would never find
anything--even to the inclusion of a 'nothing'--that would be made of
it.
Like I said, it's the only arguent that leads anywhere close; but, I
thik it's a black hole of an idea in that the idea sucks so much, it
sucks itself to oblivion.  ;-)
An idea I have been enjoying even more than 'all is energy' is that 
"all
is information". In my view whereas we can say 'all is energy' we mean
composition but abstracting any phenomena, object, interaction into
types of information promotes a fundamentally universal layer to 
compare
vastly divergent fields: eg the accumulation of density producing
gravity (which could be seen as another density in space/time), and the
similarities to dynamically evolving, self organizing systems of
information (life, virii) as a higher form of information (greater 
ratio
of potential:matter-density) as the formula to understand the
similarities and differences of how (factors) each operates within 
their
environments (space/time). This to me would also eventually lead to key
identifiers for what we are (potentials), where we are (bounded
attraction differentials). A consequence of this system is the inherent
intelligence of the cosmos. I can't put it into words well right now,
but I see that many earlier ideas have helped spawn this and the name
that's stuck with me is 'super-intelligent design'. More pseudoscience
than anything really until I can rerun my memory/experiences and get it
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