it is a soft very malleable metal that for all practical purposes does not corrode. Allan
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:58 PM, pol.science kid <[email protected]>wrote: > so why is gold so precious for us?? > > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 4:53 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I forgot Persia! :-)//Well, Egypt was a power equal to Rome before >> conquest and Alexandria was considered perhaps the greatest city of >> all and I would guess gold was a currency in trade but would have to >> research that. I think the emphasis was not on eye shadow-kohl- but >> embalming and filling the pyramids with goods for the afterlife- Book >> of the Dead- which was extremely ritualized. Often traps and hidden >> accesses were built but robbers got in anyway so I suspect an "inside >> job" or the result of being conquered as newer powers simply spread >> the gold through trade or building their own treasury. I don't think >> gold is such a plentiful, easy metal which accounts for its value and >> part of the mission of later explorers was to seek new supplies in the >> East or New World along with spices- pepper was once as valuable as >> gold- as food spoiled quickly.//The Jews and others were definitely >> seen as property when defeated. Rome was a huge slave owner, for >> example, and those ancient kingdoms had a lot of ups and downs over >> the centuries. How old is the story of King Midas? Anyway, there >> probably is gold on the sea floor of the Mediterranean as well as >> sunken ships of Spain from the Americas.//Maybe Wikipedia has a decent >> history of gold, Allan, as I am just "winging it" from memory of what >> I have read or seen. And we should remember Napoleon's expedition to >> Egypt- 1798- which opened Egypt to colonial powers after the Battle of >> the Pyramids. I think much treasure eventually wound up with the >> French and British in spite of defilement of graves and temples; the >> Ottomans should also be considered and possibly Russia.( What about >> all the gold ornamentation of Christian and Orthodox worship? Or >> jewelry and decorative arts like dishes and goblets? I think that gold >> just kept being recycled.) Sorry for all the darting about of ideas >> but that's how my mind works in the early morning! lol Just think how >> the lure of gold hastened the takeover of lands from the Indians and >> Spain in the USA. And how Baghdad's museum was sacked. I guess it's >> true that people will do just about anything for money, sadly. >> >> On Dec 20, 11:06 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Rigsy that is my point the history we were taught is not the history >> that >> > is being found out today. the history as I was told was the pyramids >> were >> > totally built by jewish slave labor.. which has turned out to be not >> true >> > but more of a fabricated story presented as it was the absolute truth.. >> a >> > poor victimized people. which is just not true. >> > >> > The second part of the missing gold..all though all societies use some >> gold >> > the quantities are really minor when it comes to the quanity that was >> used >> > in the interment rites rights of the egyptian kings with massive >> amounts >> > of gold that were meant to remain where they were placed.. later kings >> > would not defile the graves simply because they did not want their own >> > defiled.. >> > >> > what bothers me this gold and artifacts are showing up today outside >> egypt >> > ,, but this gold is not showing up inside egypt probably mainly because >> it >> > was not a currency of exchange. the Grave robbers almost certianly had >> to be >> > outsiders to whom gold had value. records from the building of the >> pyramids >> > show they were more interested in eye shadow. so just who were these >> thieves >> > and where did the gold go remember this was ancient times.? >> > The gold should be track able. >> > Allan >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:14 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > Here's a morning "stab in the dark" Allan. Slaves were war booty- >> > > along with treasure, maybe horses and food supplies- so the Jews were >> > > present in Egypt and held a variety of positions- some, undoubtedly, >> > > slave labor according to the OT and Cecile B. DeMille. The Jews were >> > > not great builders as Hiram of Tyre had to send builders and materials >> > > to Solomon, etc. Cities were coming of age so there must have been >> > > architects as the temples are still awesome and one marvels at how >> > > such massive stones and pillars were carved, lugged and placed without >> > > modern equipment! >> > >> > > Gold ornaments and jewelry are found in other ancient burial sites- >> > > Greece- Troy- Ireland, etc. and it could have come from southern >> > > Africa or Europe/modern Turkey. You will find a good amount of these >> > > ancient artifacts in museums or it has been remelted. Glass was also >> > > treasured and some insist it was developed in Phoenecia (modern >> > > Lebanon) which was an active Mediterranean trader. By the way, I think >> > > museums are modern thieves of other people's cultures, China is paying >> > > high prices to retrieve its "stolen" past. Cleopatra was Greek- so >> > > that would account for her introducing coins, perhaps. (Let's see how >> > > Angelini Jolie upstarts Liz Taylor's version! lol) >> > >> > > On Dec 19, 4:15 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > I am hoping someone has the answers as they have been bugging me and >> the >> > > > more I find out the more I don't understand. >> > >> > > > I was taught that the Egyptian pyramids were built by jewish slave >> labor >> > > > turns out that archeology shows that they were built by by the >> Egyptians >> > > > themselves part of their tax system. the other thing I am finding >> out is >> > > > that they had no currency other than barter for grain. Ramses had >> > > grainery >> > > > complex large enough to feed all of egypt for over a year ,, now >> that is >> > > a >> > > > lot of grain.. and the nile is a tremendous agricultural area very >> > > fertile. >> > >> > > > Now the only coins known to be minted were created by cleaopatra and >> were >> > > of >> > > > a helenistic design and were never in circulation. >> > > > Now the Pharaohs are well known for the love of Gold in their >> burials >> > > and >> > > > lots of it to. Now to my knowledge there are no major sources of >> Gold >> > > within >> > > > the Egyptian borders which is not a problem as they had plenty of >> grain >> > > to >> > > > trade for all the gold they wanted.. >> > > > Nomadic tribes by their nature are not large 30 to 50 people at >> best. not >> > > > hundreds of thousands as taught. one of the questions is what >> happened >> > > to >> > > > the jews and just where were they? maybe still nomadic traders?? >> Isreal >> > > has >> > > > no major gold mines to my knowledge. and apparently slavery was >> not a >> > > big >> > > > thing either, although i am sure the was some trade in it.. just >> like >> > > today >> > > > it exist world wide,, but is not major.. >> > >> > > > The other question comes from the burial rites and the shear >> quantity of >> > > > gold that was involved disappearing by tomb robbers, that would be >> like >> > > > stealing all the gold out of the us depository at fort knox which is >> over >> > > > 4,000 tonnes of gold andit is small comparired to new york's vault >> which >> > > is >> > > > over 5,000 tonnes. what happened to all this gold it apparently >> does not >> > > > show up in the ancient Egyptian culture >> > >> > > > My questions come to this >> > > > 1: Where were all the jews in egypt in ancient times what did they >> > > actually >> > > > do? >> > > > 2: What happened to all the burial gold that was stolen from the >> tombs >> > > and >> > > > we are not talking about a few ounces either more like it the areas >> of >> > > tons. >> > >> > > > I hope some one can help me with these answers to these questions >> > > > Allan >> > >> > > > -- >> > > > ( >> > > > ) >> > > > I_D Allan >> > >> > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >> > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, >> > >> > -- >> > ( >> > ) >> > I_D Allan >> > >> > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >> > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > \--/ Peace > -- ( ) I_D Allan If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
