The dating is what Egyptologists seem to have the hardest time getting
correct! The modern ones aren't any better for the simple fact that
the older things become the more difficult they are to date... I will
be back to this disscussion Allan, with a more ample response. ;)

On Dec 21, 3:23 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> You are right lee the original story comes from the bible which originates
> from the jewish torah ..  what bothers me is the time line, being the story
> I was raised with the story as truth..but it is turning out it is nothing
> but propaganda.
>
> Rigsy this is all pre christian era and with the romans it was pretty much
> over.. but even then there are not stories of the type of looting like what
> occurred of Ramses tomb..  if it was raided by an army it would have been
> recorded  so we are looking at tomb raiders.
>
> it seems history has been written by those who want it for their advantage..
> to me that is irritating..  what is so wrong with the truth?
> Allan
>
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:44 PM, [email protected] <
>
>
>
>
>
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > Where did you learn this?  I think I have only ever heard this
> > particular story from the Christian bible.
>
> > On Dec 20, 5:06 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Rigsy  that is my point the history we were taught is not the history
> > that
> > > is being found out today.  the history as I was told was the pyramids
> > were
> > > totally built by jewish slave labor.. which has turned out to be not true
> > > but more of a fabricated story presented as it was the absolute truth.. a
> > > poor victimized people.  which is just not true.
>
> > > The second part of the missing gold..all though all societies use some
> > gold
> > > the quantities are really minor when it comes to the quanity that was
> > used
> > > in the interment rites rights of the egyptian kings   with massive
> > amounts
> > > of gold that were meant to remain where they were placed..  later kings
> > > would not defile the graves simply because they did not want their own
> > > defiled..
>
> > > what bothers me this gold and artifacts are showing up today outside
> >  egypt
> > > ,, but this gold is not showing up inside egypt probably mainly because
> > it
> > > was not a currency of exchange. the Grave robbers almost certianly had to
> > be
> > > outsiders to whom gold had value. records from the building of the
> > pyramids
> > > show they were more interested in eye shadow. so just who were these
> > thieves
> > > and where did the gold go remember this was ancient times.?
> > > The gold should be track able.
> > > Allan
>
> > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:14 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Here's a morning "stab in the dark" Allan. Slaves were war booty-
> > > > along with treasure, maybe horses and food supplies- so the Jews were
> > > > present in Egypt and held a variety of positions- some, undoubtedly,
> > > > slave labor according to the OT and Cecile B. DeMille. The Jews were
> > > > not great builders as Hiram of Tyre had to send builders and materials
> > > > to Solomon, etc. Cities were coming of age so there must have been
> > > > architects as the temples are still awesome and one marvels at how
> > > > such massive stones and pillars were carved, lugged and placed without
> > > > modern equipment!
>
> > > > Gold ornaments and jewelry are found in other ancient burial sites-
> > > > Greece- Troy- Ireland, etc. and it could have come from southern
> > > > Africa or Europe/modern Turkey. You will find a good amount of these
> > > > ancient artifacts in museums or it has been remelted. Glass was also
> > > > treasured and some insist it was developed in Phoenecia (modern
> > > > Lebanon) which was an active Mediterranean trader. By the way, I think
> > > > museums are modern thieves of other people's cultures, China is paying
> > > > high prices to retrieve its "stolen" past. Cleopatra was Greek- so
> > > > that would account for her introducing coins, perhaps. (Let's see how
> > > > Angelini Jolie upstarts Liz Taylor's version! lol)
>
> > > > On Dec 19, 4:15 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > I am hoping someone has the answers as they have been bugging me and
> > the
> > > > > more I find out the more I don't understand.
>
> > > > > I was taught that the Egyptian pyramids were built by jewish slave
> > labor
> > > > > turns out that archeology  shows that they were built by by the
> > Egyptians
> > > > > themselves part of their tax system. the other thing I am finding out
> > is
> > > > > that they had no currency other than barter for grain. Ramses had
> > > > grainery
> > > > > complex large enough to feed all of egypt for over a year ,, now that
> > is
> > > > a
> > > > > lot of grain..  and the nile is a tremendous agricultural area very
> > > > fertile.
>
> > > > > Now the only coins known to be minted were created by cleaopatra and
> > were
> > > > of
> > > > > a helenistic design  and were never in circulation.
> > > > > Now the  Pharaohs are well known for the love of Gold in their
> > burials
> > > > and
> > > > > lots of it to. Now to my knowledge there are no major sources of Gold
> > > > within
> > > > > the Egyptian borders which is not a problem as they had plenty of
> > grain
> > > >  to
> > > > > trade for all the gold they wanted..
> > > > > Nomadic tribes by their nature are not large 30 to 50 people at best.
> > not
> > > > > hundreds of thousands as taught.  one of the questions is what
> > happened
> > > > to
> > > > > the jews and just where were they?  maybe still nomadic traders??
> > Isreal
> > > > has
> > > > > no major gold mines to my  knowledge.  and apparently slavery was not
> > a
> > > > big
> > > > > thing either, although i am sure the was some trade in it.. just like
> > > > today
> > > > > it exist world wide,, but is not major..
>
> > > > > The other question comes from the burial rites and the shear quantity
> > of
> > > > > gold that was involved disappearing by tomb robbers, that would be
> > like
> > > > > stealing all the gold out of the us depository at fort knox which is
> > over
> > > > > 4,000 tonnes of gold  andit is small comparired to new york's vault
> > which
> > > > is
> > > > > over 5,000 tonnes.  what happened to all this gold it apparently does
> > not
> > > > > show up in the ancient  Egyptian culture
>
> > > > > My questions come to this
> > > > > 1: Where were all the jews in egypt in ancient times what did they
> > > > actually
> > > > > do?
> > > > > 2: What happened to all the burial gold that was stolen from the
> > tombs
> > > >  and
> > > > > we are not talking about a few ounces either more like it the areas
> > of
> > > > tons.
>
> > > > > I hope some one can help me with these answers to these questions
> > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > --
> > > > >  (
> > > > >   )
> > > > > I_D Allan
>
> > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
>
> > > --
> > >  (
> > >   )
> > > I_D Allan
>
> > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text -
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> --
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>   )
> I_D Allan
>
> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text -
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