This morning I feel pangs of guilt over my victory and arts of persuasion! :-)/:-( He worked so hard in December- a record year for the snowfalls- and I reacted to a bill three times the usual but we had three times the storms and snows. The issue was really that he never informed us of certain rates he would charge which he wrote off after we talked.
He has a business- 1500 accounts and 5 employees but I am on his personal list versus his business accounts. I "jumped" him one day when my former guy decided to return to construction work. He told me he has more problems getting paid by his business accounts and his contract runs 3 pages. He also pays taxes and is insured which many services skip. He's a very pleasant 50 year year old in great shape. I joked- o-to be 50 again and he joked back- o- to be 30 again but then I wouldn;t be shovelling your snow! lol On Jan 8, 2:21 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > Maybe he is starting an official business? > Allan > > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:51 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > "Several households" is a good idea and happens here too with serial > > divorces though that doesn't always mean wives and children know one > > another. > > > Well, after I exorcized my Amazon, I worked things out for me and my > > neighbor in a polite and rational manner with my lawn/snow man who > > accepted facts and mere information much to the relief of all. He is > > sending a corrected bill to us but will want us to sign a contract in > > April rather than continue an oral deal. That's fair enough and he's > > been reliable for five years. > > > On Jan 6, 11:17 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > It was a strange and yes at times a wonderfull upbringing I had. You > > > understand of coures that although I grew up knowing all of my > > > siblings we were spread out over several households. I grew up with > > > another four of us in the house, three brothers and one sister. > > > > On Jan 6, 1:41 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > That's "massive"! :-) It sounds wonderful to an only child but > > > > thinking back, my best friend from a large family used to dash to my > > > > home for some peace and quiet! And still does! > > > > > My neighbor and I were billed twice the normal amount for snow removal > > > > last month so we have girded our loins for battle! The guy has not > > > > returned our calls...what a coward! A week ago I thought he was my > > > > personal savior and a hunk to boot! Boy- I sure misjudge men. lol > > > > > On Jan 6, 6:22 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hey Rigsy, you sound eliteish and snobby? Naaa I did not think so. > > > > > > Massive FYI in this instance means that I am the oldest of 16 > > > > > children. > > > > > > On Jan 1, 4:03 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Yes- we do sink into our own experience and understanding and I am > > > > > > sorry if my question sounded elitish or snobbish because that was > > not > > > > > > its intent. In the back of my mind were the family farms that are > > no > > > > > > longer able to compete with corporations or the miserable property > > > > > > taxes for those who have retired, lost jobs, etc. Money is > > moveable- > > > > > > land/property is not so sometimes one feels captive. > > > > > > > I learned more being broke- it really spurred creativity and a > > healthy > > > > > > survival instinct. My library card was my "credit card". Again, > > those > > > > > > years at a boarding school taught some valuable lessons regarding a > > > > > > simple life that was in total contrast to my parent's lifestyle. I > > > > > > pretty much depend on my children learning how to be > > self-sufficient > > > > > > though that has had some consequences- but mostly positive. > > > > > > > But we are not captains of our own ships, are we? > > > > > > > When I think of dire straits, I think of Pakistan floods or Haiti's > > > > > > earthquake or Austrailia's floods, etc. It is Nature that seems the > > > > > > harshest foe to come up against. > > > > > > > My parents came from large (what is "massive" :-) ) families and > > they > > > > > > were the "success stories"- except for all the unhappiness- but > > that > > > > > > is another story. > > > > > > > Anyway- good for you and your own journey! > > > > > > > On Dec 31 2010, 7:14 am, "[email protected]" > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > What has happend to the concept of family fortunes? I think that > > > > > > > concept is still strong, alive and kicking in those who's family > > have > > > > > > > had money for generations. > > > > > > > > Myself I come from a massive family, and because it is massive it > > is > > > > > > > also poor. I grew up in real poverty and so as you might expect > > I > > > > > > > have worked hard, and now findmyself quite well off indeed thank > > you > > > > > > > very much. > > > > > > > > From my POV, and I would guess my feelings are similar to those > > from a > > > > > > > similar background, the lesson for my kids is work hard to get > > what > > > > > > > you desire. So when it comes to inherantance they will be > > gettting a > > > > > > > little, but the majority I'll probaly leave to charity. > > > > > > > > That is the thing with concepts, we will view them differant > > dependant > > > > > > > on our view which of course comes larglye from our upbring and > > lifes > > > > > > > experiances. > > > > > > > > On Dec 31, 12:52 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What has happened to the concept of family fortunes and the > > desire to > > > > > > > > provide for future progeny? It's become a pariah within the > > liberal- > > > > > > > > socialist agenda of equalizing the population. My feeling is if > > > > > > > > someone earns the money it is his-after taxes. tithing or > > whatever his > > > > > > > > nature or conscience drive him to distribute. It is not the > > public's > > > > > > > > business to determine how others spend their money- most likely > > it > > > > > > > > springs from envy- however, the government's greed and waste > > are valid > > > > > > > > concerns. > > > > > > > > > On Dec 28, 5:05 pm, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 22, 5:35 am, "[email protected]" < > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You've had enough? Have people been calling you greedy and > > you > > > > > > > > > > disagree with them? > > > > > > > > > > No, just wanted some clarification on the use of the word is > > all. > > > > > > > > > > > Greed is the desire for more than you need. You are > > correct I think, > > > > > > > > > > that ones needs can only really be suitably defined by the > > person in > > > > > > > > > > need. Art I think must be treated differanlty than say > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > If you have enough food and yet desire more, this is greed, > > easpecily > > > > > > > > > > when you have so much that most gets wasted. > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps then we should talk in terms of supply and waste. > > If it your > > > > > > > > > > goal to accumilate so much money that you cannot hope to > > spend it all > > > > > > > > > > in your lifetime, then I would also call that greed. So > > intent, > > > > > > > > > > supply, and waste. > > > > > > > > > > Sounds reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 12, 9:55 am, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The word “greed” is tossed out so often and it always > > intrigues me > > > > > > > > > > > just what people mean by it. Just what is “greed?” Some > > people (no > > > > > > > > > > > names) toss this word off their fingertips all the time > > and frankly I > > > > > > > > > > > HAVE HAD ENOUGH. > > > > > > > > > > > > Webster defines this word as… > > > > > > > > > > > : a selfish and excessive desire for more of something > > (as money) than > > > > > > > > > > > is needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, let’s take a more careful look at that definition. > > Let’s say a > > > > > > > > > > > very rich person spends a million dollars on a painting > > that he just > > > > > > > > > > > loves. He thinks this painting is so remarkable, so > > beautiful, that > > > > > > > > > > > he is willing to buy it for a million dollars so he can > > look at it > > > > > > > > > > > every day in his house. Me personally? I would never > > spend a > > > > > > > > > > > million dollars on a painting, but that is just me. That > > painting, or > > > > > > > > > > > ANY painting, is not something I am interested in buying > > at that > > > > > > > > > > > price, even if I was filthy rich. But the things that I > > buy would > > > > > > > > > > > curl your hair as they might seem so “strange” to YOU, > > but not to me. > > > > > > > > > > > Everybody is different, and this is a very important > > thing to > > > > > > > > > > > consider. NOBODY can judge what another person finds > > important, > > > > > > > > > > > interesting, beautiful, desirable, or worthwhile. (Just > > look at your > > > > > > > > > > > hairstyle…smily thingee goes here) > > > > > > > > > > > > The question is…is that greed? I don’t think so. Is > > buying anything > > > > > > > > > > > that one does not “need” greed? Hell no! you better > > check your > > > > > > > > > > > inventory of your life if that is the case, you would > > find that every > > > > > > > > > > > human on earth is greedy, and therefore the definition is > > rendered > > > > > > > > > > > meaningless. The definition clearly states “an EXCESSIVE > > desire for > > > > > > > > > > > MORE of SOMETHING” > > > > > > > > > > > > This says to me that greed is only achieved when you > > already HAVE > > > > > > > > > > > “enough” of this particular “thing” and yet you want more > > anyway. You > > > > > > > > > > > want more than you can actually “benefit” from because > > you already > > > > > > > > > > > have “it” THAT is greed. When you “hoard” something > > for no reason, > > > > > > > > > > > and NOT when you simply “want” something that you don’t > > have. Wanting > > > > > > > > > > > something IS NOT GREED. Get that through your fricking > > head. Wanting > > > > > > > > > > > something that is not “needed” is not greed. Wanting > > something you > > > > > > > > > > > already have plenty of is greed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Which brings us, inevitably, to money. Money can be > > turned into > > > > > > > > > > > ANYTHING, so one cannot say that you have a quantity of > > this > > > > > > > > > > > particular one “thing” that meets the classic definition > > of greed, > > > > > > > > > > > UNTIL YOU CLARIFY IT. It is not “one thing” it is > > “anything I can > > > > > > > > > > > think of” so it must be treated slightly differently. > > Now, if you > > > > > > > > > > > want a billion dollars but your actual, realistic “wants > > and needs” > > > > > > > > > > > are only a million dollars, then you are greedy. But if > > you have > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable plans for every single > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
