I agree, social solidarity toward common wellness through individual
responsibility, those who could have made a difference (if there were
any) ultimately didn't. Societal/community failure is most likely.
On 1/9/2011 4:39 PM, Manfraco Frank Elder wrote:
Hi everybody!
I have to say that I have heard many time that one wishes to end it
all, so, suicide is on some people minds when they do not see a way
out from their sorrows and pains. At the same time I have to say that
you are right RP when you say that pain will be increased a hundred
times to the people surrounding those who commit suicide, but what
could those same people have done to prevent that suicide? I think
that is the question that we have to ask ourselves, when we find
ourselves in such a situation?
My regards to you all,
Manfraco
On Jan 9, 9:53 pm, iam deheretic<[email protected]> wrote:
I tend to agree with the insurmountable suffering, but even there I am not
sure. I do know that in long duration fasting the hunger only last for a
few days especially if you find something to occupy your time. I do know
that taking advantage of the situations one is in and open up to the
experience can lead into some pretty amazing situations. That has occurred
in the past for me, 'What works I am not about to fix.'
Now the teenage in depression,, well that comes between him and the
Creator,but I tend to think that the emotional turmoil they are going
through will then continue through all eternity and their death will be
added to it.
But what do I know.. just the reasons I don't like the idea for myself.
Allan
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ash<[email protected]> wrote:
On 1/8/2011 9:28 AM, RP Singh wrote:
When a man is under depression he tries to escape pain by committing
suicide , but does he really escape pain? No he increases it hundredfold.
The pain and sorrow that his family and friends feel at his demise is
actually a pain that is experienced by that individual. Escapism is no
remedy , the only way is to struggle and bear through all hardships. To
fight throughout is the only way and as death will eventually come, why
prepone it.
And there are worse things than death. There are many ways however to
minimize on the effects to others, such as drinking a bottle of rum and
passing out while out camping or hunting in extreme cold. Making it look
accidental however deprives others from the truth of why, and there is
always the element of wasted potential to reconcile. I agree one should have
the right to die with some dignity if facing insurmountable suffering, but
it should be held a sacred right and protected as much as possible from
manipulation holding severe punishments. An 18 year old can decide whether
to stand in the line of fire, but someone with incurable cancer or mind/body
falling apart cannot say enough is enough until their body can give up
without aid. Insurance companies should hold no weight in the discussion.
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