Sorry I have to call tosh on this one. People die and when they do those left behind DO get over their deaths. Why would a loved ones death be pain 100 times over? Death is inevitable depression is a living death for some. Pain 100 times over? Not even close.
On Jan 9, 9:39 pm, Manfraco Frank Elder <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi everybody! > I have to say that I have heard many time that one wishes to end it > all, so, suicide is on some people minds when they do not see a way > out from their sorrows and pains. At the same time I have to say that > you are right RP when you say that pain will be increased a hundred > times to the people surrounding those who commit suicide, but what > could those same people have done to prevent that suicide? I think > that is the question that we have to ask ourselves, when we find > ourselves in such a situation? > My regards to you all, > Manfraco > > On Jan 9, 9:53 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I tend to agree with the insurmountable suffering, but even there I am not > > sure. I do know that in long duration fasting the hunger only last for a > > few days especially if you find something to occupy your time. I do know > > that taking advantage of the situations one is in and open up to the > > experience can lead into some pretty amazing situations. That has occurred > > in the past for me, 'What works I am not about to fix.' > > > Now the teenage in depression,, well that comes between him and the > > Creator,but I tend to think that the emotional turmoil they are going > > through will then continue through all eternity and their death will be > > added to it. > > But what do I know.. just the reasons I don't like the idea for myself. > > Allan > > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 1/8/2011 9:28 AM, RP Singh wrote: > > > >> When a man is under depression he tries to escape pain by committing > > >> suicide , but does he really escape pain? No he increases it hundredfold. > > >> The pain and sorrow that his family and friends feel at his demise is > > >> actually a pain that is experienced by that individual. Escapism is no > > >> remedy , the only way is to struggle and bear through all hardships. To > > >> fight throughout is the only way and as death will eventually come, why > > >> prepone it. > > > > And there are worse things than death. There are many ways however to > > > minimize on the effects to others, such as drinking a bottle of rum and > > > passing out while out camping or hunting in extreme cold. Making it look > > > accidental however deprives others from the truth of why, and there is > > > always the element of wasted potential to reconcile. I agree one should > > > have > > > the right to die with some dignity if facing insurmountable suffering, but > > > it should be held a sacred right and protected as much as possible from > > > manipulation holding severe punishments. An 18 year old can decide whether > > > to stand in the line of fire, but someone with incurable cancer or > > > mind/body > > > falling apart cannot say enough is enough until their body can give up > > > without aid. Insurance companies should hold no weight in the discussion. > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
