Meh! To live is to suffer, and to cause others to suffer. It is impossible to live without causing suffering to others.
In addition to this, I would ask if RP Singh realises what he has actualy asked of the man whom may consider suciude and how fair such an asking is? In effect, then RP asks that the depressed man make the choice to contiune in his suffering so as to aliviate the suffering of others. How would you view such a request if asked of you? On Jan 10, 6:55 am, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree, social solidarity toward common wellness through individual > responsibility, those who could have made a difference (if there were > any) ultimately didn't. Societal/community failure is most likely. > > On 1/9/2011 4:39 PM, Manfraco Frank Elder wrote: > > > > > Hi everybody! > > I have to say that I have heard many time that one wishes to end it > > all, so, suicide is on some people minds when they do not see a way > > out from their sorrows and pains. At the same time I have to say that > > you are right RP when you say that pain will be increased a hundred > > times to the people surrounding those who commit suicide, but what > > could those same people have done to prevent that suicide? I think > > that is the question that we have to ask ourselves, when we find > > ourselves in such a situation? > > My regards to you all, > > Manfraco > > > On Jan 9, 9:53 pm, iam deheretic<[email protected]> wrote: > >> I tend to agree with the insurmountable suffering, but even there I am not > >> sure. I do know that in long duration fasting the hunger only last for a > >> few days especially if you find something to occupy your time. I do know > >> that taking advantage of the situations one is in and open up to the > >> experience can lead into some pretty amazing situations. That has occurred > >> in the past for me, 'What works I am not about to fix.' > > >> Now the teenage in depression,, well that comes between him and the > >> Creator,but I tend to think that the emotional turmoil they are going > >> through will then continue through all eternity and their death will be > >> added to it. > >> But what do I know.. just the reasons I don't like the idea for myself. > >> Allan > > >> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ash<[email protected]> wrote: > >>> On 1/8/2011 9:28 AM, RP Singh wrote: > >>>> When a man is under depression he tries to escape pain by committing > >>>> suicide , but does he really escape pain? No he increases it hundredfold. > >>>> The pain and sorrow that his family and friends feel at his demise is > >>>> actually a pain that is experienced by that individual. Escapism is no > >>>> remedy , the only way is to struggle and bear through all hardships. To > >>>> fight throughout is the only way and as death will eventually come, why > >>>> prepone it. > >>> And there are worse things than death. There are many ways however to > >>> minimize on the effects to others, such as drinking a bottle of rum and > >>> passing out while out camping or hunting in extreme cold. Making it look > >>> accidental however deprives others from the truth of why, and there is > >>> always the element of wasted potential to reconcile. I agree one should > >>> have > >>> the right to die with some dignity if facing insurmountable suffering, but > >>> it should be held a sacred right and protected as much as possible from > >>> manipulation holding severe punishments. An 18 year old can decide whether > >>> to stand in the line of fire, but someone with incurable cancer or > >>> mind/body > >>> falling apart cannot say enough is enough until their body can give up > >>> without aid. Insurance companies should hold no weight in the discussion. > >> -- > >> ( > >> ) > >> I_D Allan > > >> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > >> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
