There are many sources of shame for a family.
On Jan 10, 11:26 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > When someone commits suicide it is not a simple death , rather it is a > shameful one for the family and often it leads to sorrow and trouble for the > loved ones. The person who has died has escaped the frustrations of life but > he has left a life of indignity and sorrow for his children , if had borne > with his suffering a bit more he would have got over his troubles and saved > his family from much indignity and frustration. Most of the times a person > commits suicide in a mood of desperation which if had borne a bit he would > have got over it and would have gone about his life in a much better frame > of mind.Depression is temporary and runs it course , after which the > sufferer goes about his work in a better frame of mind. Again death is > inevitable and no matter how much you are suffering it will end one day , so > why not keep hope and give yourself another chance for whether you are like > it or not death will knock at your door sooner or later , so why prepone > death. Hope is divine and one should not ever give up because most of the > time things change for the better , and as you will die anyway there is no > harm in being hopeful for the remaining period of your life. > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:57 PM, [email protected] < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry I have to call tosh on this one. People die and when they do > > those left behind DO get over their deaths. Why would a loved ones > > death be pain 100 times over? Death is inevitable depression is a > > living death for some. Pain 100 times over? Not even close. > > > On Jan 9, 9:39 pm, Manfraco Frank Elder <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi everybody! > > > I have to say that I have heard many time that one wishes to end it > > > all, so, suicide is on some people minds when they do not see a way > > > out from their sorrows and pains. At the same time I have to say that > > > you are right RP when you say that pain will be increased a hundred > > > times to the people surrounding those who commit suicide, but what > > > could those same people have done to prevent that suicide? I think > > > that is the question that we have to ask ourselves, when we find > > > ourselves in such a situation? > > > My regards to you all, > > > Manfraco > > > > On Jan 9, 9:53 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I tend to agree with the insurmountable suffering, but even there I am > > not > > > > sure. I do know that in long duration fasting the hunger only last for > > a > > > > few days especially if you find something to occupy your time. I do > > know > > > > that taking advantage of the situations one is in and open up to the > > > > experience can lead into some pretty amazing situations. That has > > occurred > > > > in the past for me, 'What works I am not about to fix.' > > > > > Now the teenage in depression,, well that comes between him and the > > > > Creator,but I tend to think that the emotional turmoil they are going > > > > through will then continue through all eternity and their death will be > > > > added to it. > > > > But what do I know.. just the reasons I don't like the idea for myself. > > > > Allan > > > > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 1/8/2011 9:28 AM, RP Singh wrote: > > > > > >> When a man is under depression he tries to escape pain by committing > > > > >> suicide , but does he really escape pain? No he increases it > > hundredfold. > > > > >> The pain and sorrow that his family and friends feel at his demise > > is > > > > >> actually a pain that is experienced by that individual. Escapism is > > no > > > > >> remedy , the only way is to struggle and bear through all hardships. > > To > > > > >> fight throughout is the only way and as death will eventually come, > > why > > > > >> prepone it. > > > > > > And there are worse things than death. There are many ways however to > > > > > minimize on the effects to others, such as drinking a bottle of rum > > and > > > > > passing out while out camping or hunting in extreme cold. Making it > > look > > > > > accidental however deprives others from the truth of why, and there > > is > > > > > always the element of wasted potential to reconcile. I agree one > > should have > > > > > the right to die with some dignity if facing insurmountable > > suffering, but > > > > > it should be held a sacred right and protected as much as possible > > from > > > > > manipulation holding severe punishments. An 18 year old can decide > > whether > > > > > to stand in the line of fire, but someone with incurable cancer or > > mind/body > > > > > falling apart cannot say enough is enough until their body can give > > up > > > > > without aid. Insurance companies should hold no weight in the > > discussion. > > > > > -- > > > > ( > > > > ) > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
