God is the Sun and we are the reflections. We vanish but God is everpresent.
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:22 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Nice anaology but it falls down a wee bit mate. > > Is it true to say that when we brake the mirror the suns reflection > vanishes, or more proper to say that when we brake the mirror we no > longer see the reflection? > > Hah God like the reflection, is never absent, but hard to see > sometimes. > > On Jan 24, 1:49 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> When we say we are not separate from God we are referring to our >> innermost being. It is like saying that our hair is not separate from >> us and yet we cut it and throw it away without harming ourselves. >> Again you may say that the reflection of the Sun is not separate from >> the Sun as it cannot be without it , but break the mirror and the >> reflection vanishes and the Sun which was its basis remains as always. >> God is unborn and eternal and cannot die , but He is our innermost >> being as we cannot be without Him and to say that we are He is foolish >> vanity as we are full of faults and shortcomings. Why go and pray to >> God if you are not separate from Him , just look in the mirror and >> smile because you are according to yourself looking at God. >> >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:45 PM, [email protected] >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I disagree with our esteemed RP. >> >> > I think that there have been some few individuals who have come to the >> > realisation that they are not seperate from God, a tiny amount but I >> > belive there have been some. >> >> > Let us start by talking about what may be turmed 'prophets'. >> >> > On Jan 23, 8:08 pm, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hope I don't get in the way here RP but I was waiting for Allan before >> >> butting in. At first I found this troubling and not purely on the basis >> >> of Individuality, but that there is a separation between things such >> >> that we are striving for our own nullification in a process of spiritual >> >> division then multiplication, while at the same time we are speaking of >> >> an eternal and infinite wellspring. It may be that this is the greatest >> >> height that any teacher will speak of or has attained and it may indeed >> >> be The truth, however it may also be a misleading truth if we accept it >> >> as the only destination. The definition of self-realization may also be >> >> a half-truth, depending on how you define self-mastery. If realization >> >> is a mere perceptual trick in the grand scheme compared to God, it is >> >> just one step of the ladder, of which there may be an infinite supply >> >> (and all of that may fall within another mastery). >> >> >> I would much prefer to walk my path for a very long time, wherever it >> >> may lead, through samsara or hell and put a foot in many dimensions of >> >> existence, merely to explore and discover. Heaven and hell I'd flip >> >> upside down and leave no stone unturned to see where and what we are and >> >> what possibilities may be. Noone can say where that would take us, or >> >> what we could become. Until then we do need pieces of insight, I suppose >> >> even if they come in the form of neti neti, many disciplines and many >> >> arts so long as we don't lose the urge or spirit that led us to make >> >> them- tools handed down for us to build on. >> >> >> I hope this was along a constructive path for thoughts, could you offer >> >> more insight into how far self-mastery can go in your belief? >> >> >> On 1/23/2011 1:16 PM, iam deheretic wrote: >> >> >> > RP by my experience you have a lot to learn >> >> > But your mind is closed and you know it all , sadly when people set >> >> > the conditions for something they can never exceed them because they >> >> > have set the only conditions they have set. sadder still it becomes a >> >> > self fulfilling prophecy . >> >> > Allan >> >> >> > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:04 AM, RP Singh <[email protected] >> >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> > The nearest a person can get to a state of Self-realization while >> >> > still in this body is to attain to the calm of self-mastery , that >> >> > is >> >> > , to remain cool and self-composed in all favourable and adverse >> >> > circumstances ----- to live and act with a spirit of detachment >> >> > while >> >> > doing all works to the best of one's ability. >> >> >> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:05 PM, [email protected] >> >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> > > I almost agree with you RP. But of course it is possible to >> >> > > experiance such bliss whilst still alive, not easy, but possible. >> >> >> > > On Jan 19, 2:49 pm, RP Singh <[email protected] >> >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> > >> All are different , some are incompetent , some competent; some >> >> > are >> >> > >> fools , others are brilliant ; some are esteemed , others >> >> > despicable; >> >> > >> and so on and on. But in reality all are equal as all are made >> >> > from >> >> > >> the One , Godself , and to that Godself all eventually go and >> >> > find >> >> > >> eternal peace , the supreme bliss which can be understood but >> >> > never >> >> > >> experienced while in this body. >> >> >> > -- >> >> > ( >> >> > ) >> >> > I_D Allan >> >> >> > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >> >> > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text -
