I disagree with our esteemed RP. I think that there have been some few individuals who have come to the realisation that they are not seperate from God, a tiny amount but I belive there have been some.
Let us start by talking about what may be turmed 'prophets'. On Jan 23, 8:08 pm, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > Hope I don't get in the way here RP but I was waiting for Allan before > butting in. At first I found this troubling and not purely on the basis > of Individuality, but that there is a separation between things such > that we are striving for our own nullification in a process of spiritual > division then multiplication, while at the same time we are speaking of > an eternal and infinite wellspring. It may be that this is the greatest > height that any teacher will speak of or has attained and it may indeed > be The truth, however it may also be a misleading truth if we accept it > as the only destination. The definition of self-realization may also be > a half-truth, depending on how you define self-mastery. If realization > is a mere perceptual trick in the grand scheme compared to God, it is > just one step of the ladder, of which there may be an infinite supply > (and all of that may fall within another mastery). > > I would much prefer to walk my path for a very long time, wherever it > may lead, through samsara or hell and put a foot in many dimensions of > existence, merely to explore and discover. Heaven and hell I'd flip > upside down and leave no stone unturned to see where and what we are and > what possibilities may be. Noone can say where that would take us, or > what we could become. Until then we do need pieces of insight, I suppose > even if they come in the form of neti neti, many disciplines and many > arts so long as we don't lose the urge or spirit that led us to make > them- tools handed down for us to build on. > > I hope this was along a constructive path for thoughts, could you offer > more insight into how far self-mastery can go in your belief? > > On 1/23/2011 1:16 PM, iam deheretic wrote: > > > > > RP by my experience you have a lot to learn > > But your mind is closed and you know it all , sadly when people set > > the conditions for something they can never exceed them because they > > have set the only conditions they have set. sadder still it becomes a > > self fulfilling prophecy . > > Allan > > > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:04 AM, RP Singh <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > The nearest a person can get to a state of Self-realization while > > still in this body is to attain to the calm of self-mastery , that is > > , to remain cool and self-composed in all favourable and adverse > > circumstances ----- to live and act with a spirit of detachment while > > doing all works to the best of one's ability. > > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:05 PM, [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > I almost agree with you RP. But of course it is possible to > > > experiance such bliss whilst still alive, not easy, but possible. > > > > On Jan 19, 2:49 pm, RP Singh <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >> All are different , some are incompetent , some competent; some are > > >> fools , others are brilliant ; some are esteemed , others > > despicable; > > >> and so on and on. But in reality all are equal as all are made from > > >> the One , Godself , and to that Godself all eventually go and find > > >> eternal peace , the supreme bliss which can be understood but never > > >> experienced while in this body. > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
