Nice anaology but it falls down a wee bit mate. Is it true to say that when we brake the mirror the suns reflection vanishes, or more proper to say that when we brake the mirror we no longer see the reflection?
Hah God like the reflection, is never absent, but hard to see sometimes. On Jan 24, 1:49 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > When we say we are not separate from God we are referring to our > innermost being. It is like saying that our hair is not separate from > us and yet we cut it and throw it away without harming ourselves. > Again you may say that the reflection of the Sun is not separate from > the Sun as it cannot be without it , but break the mirror and the > reflection vanishes and the Sun which was its basis remains as always. > God is unborn and eternal and cannot die , but He is our innermost > being as we cannot be without Him and to say that we are He is foolish > vanity as we are full of faults and shortcomings. Why go and pray to > God if you are not separate from Him , just look in the mirror and > smile because you are according to yourself looking at God. > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:45 PM, [email protected] > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I disagree with our esteemed RP. > > > I think that there have been some few individuals who have come to the > > realisation that they are not seperate from God, a tiny amount but I > > belive there have been some. > > > Let us start by talking about what may be turmed 'prophets'. > > > On Jan 23, 8:08 pm, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hope I don't get in the way here RP but I was waiting for Allan before > >> butting in. At first I found this troubling and not purely on the basis > >> of Individuality, but that there is a separation between things such > >> that we are striving for our own nullification in a process of spiritual > >> division then multiplication, while at the same time we are speaking of > >> an eternal and infinite wellspring. It may be that this is the greatest > >> height that any teacher will speak of or has attained and it may indeed > >> be The truth, however it may also be a misleading truth if we accept it > >> as the only destination. The definition of self-realization may also be > >> a half-truth, depending on how you define self-mastery. If realization > >> is a mere perceptual trick in the grand scheme compared to God, it is > >> just one step of the ladder, of which there may be an infinite supply > >> (and all of that may fall within another mastery). > > >> I would much prefer to walk my path for a very long time, wherever it > >> may lead, through samsara or hell and put a foot in many dimensions of > >> existence, merely to explore and discover. Heaven and hell I'd flip > >> upside down and leave no stone unturned to see where and what we are and > >> what possibilities may be. Noone can say where that would take us, or > >> what we could become. Until then we do need pieces of insight, I suppose > >> even if they come in the form of neti neti, many disciplines and many > >> arts so long as we don't lose the urge or spirit that led us to make > >> them- tools handed down for us to build on. > > >> I hope this was along a constructive path for thoughts, could you offer > >> more insight into how far self-mastery can go in your belief? > > >> On 1/23/2011 1:16 PM, iam deheretic wrote: > > >> > RP by my experience you have a lot to learn > >> > But your mind is closed and you know it all , sadly when people set > >> > the conditions for something they can never exceed them because they > >> > have set the only conditions they have set. sadder still it becomes a > >> > self fulfilling prophecy . > >> > Allan > > >> > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:04 AM, RP Singh <[email protected] > >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >> > The nearest a person can get to a state of Self-realization while > >> > still in this body is to attain to the calm of self-mastery , that is > >> > , to remain cool and self-composed in all favourable and adverse > >> > circumstances ----- to live and act with a spirit of detachment > >> > while > >> > doing all works to the best of one's ability. > > >> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:05 PM, [email protected] > >> > <mailto:[email protected]> > >> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > > I almost agree with you RP. But of course it is possible to > >> > > experiance such bliss whilst still alive, not easy, but possible. > > >> > > On Jan 19, 2:49 pm, RP Singh <[email protected] > >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> All are different , some are incompetent , some competent; some > >> > are > >> > >> fools , others are brilliant ; some are esteemed , others > >> > despicable; > >> > >> and so on and on. But in reality all are equal as all are made > >> > from > >> > >> the One , Godself , and to that Godself all eventually go and find > >> > >> eternal peace , the supreme bliss which can be understood but > >> > never > >> > >> experienced while in this body. > > >> > -- > >> > ( > >> > ) > >> > I_D Allan > > >> > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > >> > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
