When a person realizes that he is just a figment of God's imagination and that Brahman alone IS then he attains to salvation , liberation of the soul from duality to a state of non-duality , unending and unbreakable bliss.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 3:06 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > RP you must be awful fearful of death. and you are talking in circles > trying to sound like you understand some thing but to me you sound confused > and lost and searching for salvation, Sorry RP I fall short on just what > this salvation thing is. To simplify it for you RP When you begin to realize > you are part of Brahman and because of the simple fact there is an infinite > connection,, now all you have to learn is to be a kinder gentler person > learning to love others as Brahman loves you, Simple yes, but it take a life > time to perfect. > Allan > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:17 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> For those to whom the idea of death is fearful it is death to them , >> but those who recognising the inevitability of death and being >> unattached to the various bonds of life see that they will merge into >> the One God , attain to the supreme bliss that is Brahman. >> >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 2:36 PM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Hmm I have read part of it . some what interesting and if you have >> > nothing >> > else it could be totally fascinating I like work but it means little >> > and I >> > can often times see the purpose, reading what you say work without >> > attachment. you make it sound difficult really is it as you want it to >> > be >> > ,, sounds more like an self fulfilling prophecy personally I like work >> > simply because I enjoy working >> > >> > Yes you often reiterate old teachers , but does that mean you understand >> > what they are actually saying? >> > >> > RP the purpose and function is to get to know God and that applies to >> > every >> > one, is it going to happen? The entirety of your being both body and >> > soul is >> > totally contained with in God (no matter what name you want to call >> > him.) >> > the other is to do his will for you and for each person it is >> > different. By >> > responding to the world around you in reality you are responding to God >> > the >> > creator.These request of God are often times very quiet and subtle.If >> > you >> > don't respond well then you just simple don't. >> > >> > You tell me RP to open my eyes and accept the certainty of death and >> > salvation. Do you even know what death is and what salvation is? >> > Allan >> > >> > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:08 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> When a person loses wealth or name he becomes depressed whereas a >> >> person who has attained to the calm of self-mastery remains cool and >> >> composed as he has ever a spirit of detachment from all worldly >> >> things. But that doesn't mean that he becomes a zombie as he acts and >> >> behaves normally , doing all necessary work and making efforts without >> >> the attachment associated with such work. This view has been put forth >> >> by many great teachers and I am only reiterating it --- read the >> >> bhagwadgita and you may find something of what I am saying clearly >> >> enunciated there. People go in search of the elusive self as if it >> >> were somewhere underneath wraps , whereas the truth is it is right >> >> there before you and you fail to see it. >> >> The Self is that Nothing of which scientist speak from which the >> >> universe has emanated and to which it will go---and if you think that >> >> you will be able to grasp it within your hand , you have lot to learn. >> >> You ask me to learn but all that you speak of has been gathering dust >> >> in books and folklore , why don't you just open your eyes and accept >> >> the certainty of death and salvation. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Hope I don't get in the way here RP but I was waiting for Allan >> >> > before >> >> > butting in. At first I found this troubling and not purely on the >> >> > basis >> >> > of >> >> > Individuality, but that there is a separation between things such >> >> > that >> >> > we >> >> > are striving for our own nullification in a process of spiritual >> >> > division >> >> > then multiplication, while at the same time we are speaking of an >> >> > eternal >> >> > and infinite wellspring. It may be that this is the greatest height >> >> > that >> >> > any >> >> > teacher will speak of or has attained and it may indeed be The truth, >> >> > however it may also be a misleading truth if we accept it as the only >> >> > destination. The definition of self-realization may also be a >> >> > half-truth, >> >> > depending on how you define self-mastery. If realization is a mere >> >> > perceptual trick in the grand scheme compared to God, it is just one >> >> > step of >> >> > the ladder, of which there may be an infinite supply (and all of that >> >> > may >> >> > fall within another mastery). >> >> > >> >> > I would much prefer to walk my path for a very long time, wherever it >> >> > may >> >> > lead, through samsara or hell and put a foot in many dimensions of >> >> > existence, merely to explore and discover. Heaven and hell I'd flip >> >> > upside >> >> > down and leave no stone unturned to see where and what we are and >> >> > what >> >> > possibilities may be. Noone can say where that would take us, or what >> >> > we >> >> > could become. Until then we do need pieces of insight, I suppose even >> >> > if >> >> > they come in the form of neti neti, many disciplines and many arts so >> >> > long >> >> > as we don't lose the urge or spirit that led us to make them- tools >> >> > handed >> >> > down for us to build on. >> >> > >> >> > I hope this was along a constructive path for thoughts, could you >> >> > offer >> >> > more >> >> > insight into how far self-mastery can go in your belief? >> >> > >> >> > On 1/23/2011 1:16 PM, iam deheretic wrote: >> >> > >> >> > RP by my experience you have a lot to learn >> >> > But your mind is closed and you know it all , sadly when people set >> >> > the >> >> > conditions for something they can never exceed them because they have >> >> > set >> >> > the only conditions they have set. sadder still it becomes a self >> >> > fulfilling prophecy . >> >> > Allan >> >> > >> >> > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:04 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> The nearest a person can get to a state of Self-realization while >> >> >> still in this body is to attain to the calm of self-mastery , that >> >> >> is >> >> >> , to remain cool and self-composed in all favourable and adverse >> >> >> circumstances ----- to live and act with a spirit of detachment >> >> >> while >> >> >> doing all works to the best of one's ability. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:05 PM, [email protected] >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > I almost agree with you RP. But of course it is possible to >> >> >> > experiance such bliss whilst still alive, not easy, but possible. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Jan 19, 2:49 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> All are different , some are incompetent , some competent; some >> >> >> >> are >> >> >> >> fools , others are brilliant ; some are esteemed , others >> >> >> >> despicable; >> >> >> >> and so on and on. But in reality all are equal as all are made >> >> >> >> from >> >> >> >> the One , Godself , and to that Godself all eventually go and >> >> >> >> find >> >> >> >> eternal peace , the supreme bliss which can be understood but >> >> >> >> never >> >> >> >> experienced while in this body. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > ( >> >> > ) >> >> > I_D Allan >> >> > >> >> > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >> >> > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ( >> > ) >> > I_D Allan >> > >> > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >> > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, >> > >> > > > > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > >
