how could etiquette not be relative to empathy unless etiquette is being faked ?
ornamentalmind wrote: > 'Is etiquette a relative of empathy?' - rigsy > > No > > On Apr 13, 5:44 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > Is etiquette a relative of empathy? > > > > On Apr 13, 6:13 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respect is something that must be taught. I learnt it the hard way > > > from my dad. I am teaching it to my own kids in rather an easir > > > mannor. But you are right OM, not everybody has it and not everybody > > > dervese to be shown it. So what does Rigsy mean I wonder? > > > > > On Apr 13, 12:27 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > rigsy....how does that work?...if you don't mind? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > On Apr 12, 5:31 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I am not writing about phony etiquette but one that is based on > > > > > respect and order- yes, one that is sincere. > > > > > > > On Apr 11, 8:30 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sadly, etiquette, similar to most social niceties is but a lie...a > > > > > > form acted upon mechanically and not actually meant. In this vein, > > > > > > *IF* 'we' leave earth, 'we' will be taking the same weaknesses with > > > > > > us > > > > > > elsewhere...the weaknesses that have produced perpetual wars and the > > > > > > drive to reduce taxes to the state where education is crippled > > > > > > almost > > > > > > to the extent as to be unrecognizable. > > > > > > In this way, consciousness and our self knowledge and clarification > > > > > > of > > > > > > same are the most important aspects for survival...not just > > > > > > avoidance > > > > > > and 'escape'. > > > > > > > > On Apr 11, 4:36 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Free speech or cheap talk? The breakdown of etiquette has had a > > > > > > > negative impact on society and I have never thought a mob > > > > > > > charming. > > > > > > > > > I think universal draft should be reinstituted- for both sexes- > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > highschool- except for those who wish to teach or perform some > > > > > > > volunteer work that requires additional training/education. I > > > > > > > haven't > > > > > > > worked out the details...yet! :-) > > > > > > > > > On Apr 9, 2:14 pm, malcymo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > With regard to whether or not society is progressing. Is not > > > > > > > > scientific advance just altering the playing field? > > > > > > > > > > Europeans left for the Americas fo similar reasons to those > > > > > > > > that we > > > > > > > > feel are necessary to leave the earth, though perhaps not so > > > > > > > > pressing. > > > > > > > > > > The fact that we discuss these matters in relation to the > > > > > > > > survival of > > > > > > > > nature rather than just a desire to get away must be considered > > > > > > > > progress, musn't it. > > > > > > > > > > ALSO:- > > > > > > > > > > Within the last 200 – 300 years our lords and masters made > > > > > > > > perhaps one > > > > > > > > of the most courageous decisions which left them open to the > > > > > > > > powerful > > > > > > > > criticism of public opinion; they decide to educate all; enable > > > > > > > > everyone to read and write. The enormity of this step, albeit an > > > > > > > > enforced step, is difficult for us to conceive because we have > > > > > > > > known > > > > > > > > nothing other than our right to free speech. > > > > > > > > > > Yes society does still act with hubris often motivated > > > > > > > > emotively by > > > > > > > > insecurities but the right to free speech among a large > > > > > > > > proportion of > > > > > > > > society must indicate a move forward. > > > > > > > > > > Giving your population that right would be equivalent in > > > > > > > > magnitude to > > > > > > > > dissolving ones armed forces, would it not? > > > > > > > > > > Malc > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 10, 2:53 am, Chuck Bowling > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 3:05 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Chuck. Welcome aboard! > > > > > > > > > > > > A common worry of animals- predator and prey. Humans have > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > categories of panic, don't they? > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know. I'm not really clear on what 'categories of > > > > > > > > > panic' means. As I > > > > > > > > > understand it there are two reactions to fear - fight or > > > > > > > > > flight. Typically > > > > > > > > > in humans the higher functions of the brain shut down and > > > > > > > > > allow the more > > > > > > > > > primitive instincts to take over. In effect, in a raw > > > > > > > > > survival situation, we > > > > > > > > > become little more than animals ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > Of course there are different levels of anxiety with panic > > > > > > > > > being the > > > > > > > > > extreme. But, even there we aren't any different in the > > > > > > > > > actual feeling of > > > > > > > > > anxiety. I would hazard a guess that the only difference > > > > > > > > > would be in the way > > > > > > > > > we internalize our anxiety after the fact. > > > > > > > > > > > As to my reply to the previous post; of course it was a joke. > > > > > > > > > I doubt > > > > > > > > > animals think much about jesus or god. If anything, I'd > > > > > > > > > imagine that they > > > > > > > > > see us as their gods. > > > > > > > > > > > > This evening I heard a rattle on the driveway gate and I > > > > > > > > > > opened the > > > > > > > > > > door to see if a neighbor child was retrieving a ball that > > > > > > > > > > had flown > > > > > > > > > > over the fence. A fierce slap of wings and a huge bird took > > > > > > > > > > off- an > > > > > > > > > > eagle?- so quickly, I couldn't identify it plus I slammed > > > > > > > > > > the door in > > > > > > > > > > fear. Maybe it was an eagle who knows about the rabbits and > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > critters. It's always something! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 8, 11:14 pm, Chuck <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 7, 7:34 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to know what the animals think of us humans!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > They're thinking "don't eat me. oh jezus god, please > > > > > > > > > > > don't eat me!"- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -
