Meh embaressment over social norms is rather like offense.  It is
entirly up to the inidividual to take offence or not, or to be
embaressed by anothers behaviour.

On Apr 13, 10:45 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> True and proper etiquette  is there so that you will not make your honored
> guest feel uncomfortable.  roughly translated  "If they eat with there
> fingers ,, you eat with your fingers. do not embarrass your guests and their
> traditions. "
> Allan
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:27 AM, ornamentalmind
> <[email protected]>wrote:
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> > rigsy....how does that work?...if you don't mind?
> > Thanks
>
> > On Apr 12, 5:31 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I am not writing about phony etiquette but one that is based on
> > > respect and order- yes, one that is sincere.
>
> > > On Apr 11, 8:30 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Sadly, etiquette, similar to most social niceties  is but a lie...a
> > > > form acted upon mechanically and not actually meant. In this vein,
> > > > *IF* 'we' leave earth, 'we' will be taking the same weaknesses with us
> > > > elsewhere...the weaknesses that have produced perpetual wars and the
> > > > drive to reduce taxes to the state where education is crippled almost
> > > > to the extent as to be unrecognizable.
> > > > In this way, consciousness and our self knowledge and clarification of
> > > > same are the most important aspects for survival...not just avoidance
> > > > and 'escape'.
>
> > > > On Apr 11, 4:36 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Free speech or cheap talk? The breakdown of etiquette has had a
> > > > > negative impact on society and I have never thought a mob charming.
>
> > > > > I think universal draft should be reinstituted- for both sexes- after
> > > > > highschool- except for those who wish to teach or perform some
> > > > > volunteer work that requires additional training/education. I haven't
> > > > > worked out the details...yet! :-)
>
> > > > > On Apr 9, 2:14 pm, malcymo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > With regard to whether or not society is progressing. Is not
> > > > > > scientific advance just altering the playing field?
>
> > > > > > Europeans left for the Americas fo similar reasons to those that we
> > > > > > feel are necessary to leave the earth, though perhaps not so
> > pressing.
>
> > > > > > The fact that we discuss these matters in relation to the survival
> > of
> > > > > > nature rather than just a desire to get away must be considered
> > > > > > progress, musn't it.
>
> > > > > > ALSO:-
>
> > > > > > Within the last 200 – 300 years our lords and masters made perhaps
> > one
> > > > > > of the most courageous decisions which left them open to the
> > powerful
> > > > > > criticism of public opinion; they decide to educate all; enable
> > > > > > everyone to read and write. The enormity of this step, albeit an
> > > > > > enforced step, is difficult for us to conceive because we have
> > known
> > > > > > nothing other than our right to free speech.
>
> > > > > > Yes society does still act with hubris often motivated emotively by
> > > > > > insecurities but the right to free speech among a large proportion
> > of
> > > > > > society must indicate a move forward.
>
> > > > > > Giving your population that right would be equivalent in magnitude
> > to
> > > > > > dissolving ones armed forces, would it not?
>
> > > > > > Malc
>
> > > > > > On Apr 10, 2:53 am, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]
>
> > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 3:05 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello, Chuck. Welcome aboard!
>
> > > > > > > > A common worry of animals- predator and prey. Humans have more
> > > > > > > > categories of panic, don't they?
>
> > > > > > > I don't know. I'm not really clear on what 'categories of panic'
> > means. As I
> > > > > > > understand it there are two reactions to fear - fight or flight.
> > Typically
> > > > > > > in humans the higher functions of the brain shut down and allow
> > the more
> > > > > > > primitive instincts to take over. In effect, in a raw survival
> > situation, we
> > > > > > > become little more than animals ourselves.
>
> > > > > > > Of course there are different levels of anxiety with panic being
> > the
> > > > > > > extreme. But, even there we aren't any different in the actual
> > feeling of
> > > > > > > anxiety. I would hazard a guess that the only difference would be
> > in the way
> > > > > > > we internalize our anxiety after the fact.
>
> > > > > > > As to my reply to the previous post; of course it was a joke. I
> > doubt
> > > > > > > animals think much about jesus or god. If anything, I'd imagine
> > that they
> > > > > > > see us as their gods.
>
> > > > > > > > This evening I heard a rattle on the driveway gate and I opened
> > the
> > > > > > > > door to see if a neighbor child was retrieving a ball that had
> > flown
> > > > > > > > over the fence. A fierce slap of wings and a huge bird took
> > off- an
> > > > > > > > eagle?- so quickly, I couldn't identify it plus I slammed the
> > door in
> > > > > > > > fear. Maybe it was an eagle who knows about the rabbits and
> > other
> > > > > > > > critters. It's always something! :-)
>
> > > > > > > > On Apr 8, 11:14 pm, Chuck <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Apr 7, 7:34 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > to know what the animals think of us humans!!!
>
> > > > > > > > > They're thinking "don't eat me. oh jezus god, please don't
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