I'll give you a word to look up in the wikipedia, a word that is related to etiquette, empathy and the here-and-now - hopefully the triangulation will make it easier for you to find access - the word is: netiqette. ;)
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:38 AM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>wrote: > “how could etiquette not be relative to empathy unless etiquette is > being faked ? “ – TTS > > A more accurate and more interesting question might be how in *any* > way at all are the two terms related? > > Simply looking at any common definition of the terms shows the lack of > similarity: > 1. Etiquette – is a code of behavior… > 2. Empathy – is the capacity to recognize and, to some extent, share > feelings… > > Now I know that anyone can simply assign their personal meaning and > understanding to the words; however the first is “A Code of Behavior” > and the second is “The Capacity to Recognize..” – entirely different > things. > > One can look even deeper into the meanings associated with these terms… > at least the commonly held meanings and similarities just do not arise… > other than they are both words. > > Now, returning to my comment which it seems at least a few here > disagree with – that etiquette is part of the social lies. When it is > recognized as “a code of behavior” one quickly sees how by definition > it is not innate…it is imposed…(a code), thus is not natural and when > acted upon by a person often (not always) goes against their deeper > convictions and/or tendencies. > > I’ll bide my time when it comes to going more into the actual lies we > perpetrate when we suggest others support our belief(s) that laws and > other social norms are the way to go. While it is easy to say that > they are practical…(of course)… yet, in every case, many if not > everyone goes against said law etc....at least on occasion. > > > On Apr 13, 6:43 pm, the taoist shaman <[email protected]> wrote: > > how could etiquette not be relative to empathy unless etiquette is > > being faked ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ornamentalmind wrote: > > > 'Is etiquette a relative of empathy?' - rigsy > > > > > No > > > > > On Apr 13, 5:44 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Is etiquette a relative of empathy? > > > > > > On Apr 13, 6:13 am, "[email protected]" < > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Respect is something that must be taught. I learnt it the hard way > > > > > from my dad. I am teaching it to my own kids in rather an easir > > > > > mannor. But you are right OM, not everybody has it and not > everybody > > > > > dervese to be shown it. So what does Rigsy mean I wonder? > > > > > > > On Apr 13, 12:27 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > rigsy....how does that work?...if you don't mind? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > On Apr 12, 5:31 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I am not writing about phony etiquette but one that is based on > > > > > > > respect and order- yes, one that is sincere. > > > > > > > > > On Apr 11, 8:30 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sadly, etiquette, similar to most social niceties is but a > lie...a > > > > > > > > form acted upon mechanically and not actually meant. In this > vein, > > > > > > > > *IF* 'we' leave earth, 'we' will be taking the same > weaknesses with us > > > > > > > > elsewhere...the weaknesses that have produced perpetual wars > and the > > > > > > > > drive to reduce taxes to the state where education is > crippled almost > > > > > > > > to the extent as to be unrecognizable. > > > > > > > > In this way, consciousness and our self knowledge and > clarification of > > > > > > > > same are the most important aspects for survival...not just > avoidance > > > > > > > > and 'escape'. > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 11, 4:36 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Free speech or cheap talk? The breakdown of etiquette has > had a > > > > > > > > > negative impact on society and I have never thought a mob > charming. > > > > > > > > > > > I think universal draft should be reinstituted- for both > sexes- after > > > > > > > > > highschool- except for those who wish to teach or perform > some > > > > > > > > > volunteer work that requires additional training/education. > I haven't > > > > > > > > > worked out the details...yet! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 9, 2:14 pm, malcymo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > With regard to whether or not society is progressing. Is > not > > > > > > > > > > scientific advance just altering the playing field? > > > > > > > > > > > > Europeans left for the Americas fo similar reasons to > those that we > > > > > > > > > > feel are necessary to leave the earth, though perhaps not > so pressing. > > > > > > > > > > > > The fact that we discuss these matters in relation to the > survival of > > > > > > > > > > nature rather than just a desire to get away must be > considered > > > > > > > > > > progress, musn't it. > > > > > > > > > > > > ALSO:- > > > > > > > > > > > > Within the last 200 – 300 years our lords and masters > made perhaps one > > > > > > > > > > of the most courageous decisions which left them open to > the powerful > > > > > > > > > > criticism of public opinion; they decide to educate all; > enable > > > > > > > > > > everyone to read and write. The enormity of this step, > albeit an > > > > > > > > > > enforced step, is difficult for us to conceive because we > have known > > > > > > > > > > nothing other than our right to free speech. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes society does still act with hubris often motivated > emotively by > > > > > > > > > > insecurities but the right to free speech among a large > proportion of > > > > > > > > > > society must indicate a move forward. > > > > > > > > > > > > Giving your population that right would be equivalent in > magnitude to > > > > > > > > > > dissolving ones armed forces, would it not? > > > > > > > > > > > > Malc > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 10, 2:53 am, Chuck Bowling < > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 3:05 AM, rigsy03 < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Chuck. Welcome aboard! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A common worry of animals- predator and prey. Humans > have more > > > > > > > > > > > > categories of panic, don't they? > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know. I'm not really clear on what 'categories > of panic' means. As I > > > > > > > > > > > understand it there are two reactions to fear - fight > or flight. Typically > > > > > > > > > > > in humans the higher functions of the brain shut down > and allow the more > > > > > > > > > > > primitive instincts to take over. In effect, in a raw > survival situation, we > > > > > > > > > > > become little more than animals ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course there are different levels of anxiety with > panic being the > > > > > > > > > > > extreme. But, even there we aren't any different in the > actual feeling of > > > > > > > > > > > anxiety. I would hazard a guess that the only > difference would be in the way > > > > > > > > > > > we internalize our anxiety after the fact. > > > > > > > > > > > > > As to my reply to the previous post; of course it was a > joke. I doubt > > > > > > > > > > > animals think much about jesus or god. If anything, I'd > imagine that they > > > > > > > > > > > see us as their gods. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This evening I heard a rattle on the driveway gate > and I opened the > > > > > > > > > > > > door to see if a neighbor child was retrieving a ball > that had flown > > > > > > > > > > > > over the fence. A fierce slap of wings and a huge > bird took off- an > > > > > > > > > > > > eagle?- so quickly, I couldn't identify it plus I > slammed the door in > > > > > > > > > > > > fear. Maybe it was an eagle who knows about the > rabbits and other > > > > > > > > > > > > critters. It's always something! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 8, 11:14 pm, Chuck < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 7, 7:34 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to know what the animals think of us humans!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They're thinking "don't eat me. oh jezus god, > please don't eat me!"- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - >
