of corse others dont always have my best intrest in mind ! what fool
would belive that , please dont make assumptions / ASS OUT OF U AND
ME /ASSUME____  im a jack ass not a dumb ass ___ others dont need to
look out for me in order for me to look out for them , do u use fire
to put out fire riggs , i try my best to use water but some fires dont
die unless u smuther them , as far as your view on nature , sometimes
the worst example is the best example of what not to be , by the way
its taken some faith but yes it is working , ive been surviving on the
kindness of others for a few months now , people looking out for me ,
because they know i would do the same , others because they genuinely
get satisfaction from being human to other humans , some will never
know this satisfaction , and in my opinion this overpopulated world
has no room for selfish people , i have no job and have given over
100$ in food to friends and there children in the past week , i myself
struggle to eat , but love others more than myself , HUMILATY is
verrry hard to maintain when dealing with the selfish but ALL should
be treated equally , that they might turn to another , more human ,
path .    eather your on the team or your an opponent , keep your
enameys close that they might become an allie


youve got to be trusted by the people that you lie to , so that when
they turn there back on you , youll have the chance to put the knife
in ! ------RODGER WALTERS

he had a poor frame of mind ( although i dont believe that was his
true opinion , but rather a divice used to call out the wicked )

rigsy03 wrote:
> How do you explain the cycles of nature if not by the eat/eaten
> formula? The image is not as cynical as you might think when you
> consider all the in-betweens, as well.
>
> The glass was half-empty afterall! :-) The washer was not installed
> properly- it was not level- checked the "bubbles"- which affected the
> spin cycle. I corrected the side-to-side but can't deal with the front
> to back as the floor slants to a floor drain. It's covered so a
> repairman will be out Monday. Hopefully the washer is not already
> ruined.
>
> I usually take others/events at face value but am able to change my
> mind, if necessary. Do you assume everyone has your best interest at
> heart? Is this wise? How has that worked out for you thus far?
>
>
>
> On May 13, 11:34 pm, the taoist shaman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > of corse nature is both extreems , my origonal point was in responce
> > to a statment , " nature is eat or be eaten " this statment is anarrow
> > minded view , your glass is half full , u look to self and assume
> > others do the same , so it would seem
> >
> >
> >
> > rigsy03 wrote:
> > > The same animals do not work together either. Check out the mating of
> > > AK bears. Or the everlasting frustrations of male and female, male and
> > > male, female and female, child to child human beings!!!
> >
> > > On May 11, 9:31 am, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Maybe the problem is a differing opinion on what 'work together' 
> > > > actually
> > > > means. What I mean when I say that animals don't work together is that 
> > > > there
> > > > is no contract or agreement between them for the mutual benefit of both.
> >
> > > > Note also that I didn't say no animals cooperate. Only that most don't.
> >
> > > > For instance;
> >
> > > > The shark doesn't give the sucker permission to ride along. It just does
> > > > because that is where the feeding grounds are.
> >
> > > > The hippo example is a symbiotic relationship because the hippo actually
> > > > gives the bird permission to go into it's mouth to clean.
> >
> > > > Diatoms don't give the whale permission to eat them.
> >
> > > > Grazing deer could care less if the monkey is forewarned.
> >
> > > > I'm not sure it's relevant to the conversation but there is a difference
> > > > between symbiotes and parasites.
> >
> > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:19 AM, the taoist shaman 
> > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > > > > thats not even close to true chuck , sorry i have no real evidence but
> > > > > nether do you , although the answer is there to be researched . ( not
> > > > > essentialy " symbiotic "  .... theres too much to be said , suckers
> > > > > feeding off bacteria on sharks , birds eating bugs off hippopotamus ,
> > > > > diatoms feeding whales , some monkey and deer do work together  , man
> > > > > and dog , even recorded proof of man and orca ( shamoo ) , every
> > > > > scavenger and paracite , ... this is all a hopeless , vague , speck of
> > > > > what i mean to convay , oh well .
> >
> > > > > Chuck Bowling wrote:
> > > > > > Most species of animal don't actually cooperate in a symbiotic
> > > > > relationship.
> > > > > > The monkey and deer don't work together. The monkey sees the deer 
> > > > > > run and
> > > > > > being at about the same point in the food chain figures that it 
> > > > > > should
> > > > > run
> > > > > > too.
> >
> > > > > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:18 PM, the taoist shaman 
> > > > > > <[email protected]
> > > > > >wrote:
> >
> > > > > > >  i view myself as a spiritual being haveing a human experience . 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > point is that we shouldn't behave like carnivorous beasts , deer 
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > monkeys work tgether eating nuts and beries , the deer keep a look
> > > > > > > out , monkeys pick nuts ,
> >
> > > > > > > is language a good or poor indicator of intellect ?
> >
> > > > > > > Ash wrote:
> > > > > > > > Well, I think we are a part of the animal kingdom, last time I
> > > > > checked
> > > > > > > > we were mammals in the sapien family. But I think the mentality 
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > herd is a natural behavior to social creatures, that and our 
> > > > > > > > talented
> > > > > > > > rhetoric for negative reinforcement of behaviors that go 
> > > > > > > > against the
> > > > > > > > norm while the norm is reinforced with confirmation bias.
> >
> > > > > > > > On 5/5/2011 3:17 PM, the taoist shaman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > your statments contradict each other , besides we are not 
> > > > > > > > > animals ,
> > > > > > > > > well....... i can be a bit of an animal from time to time but 
> > > > > > > > > .....
> >
> > > > > > > > > On May 4, 10:02 pm, rigsy03<[email protected]>  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> How can you expect governance unless you can control the
> > > > > population?
> > > > > > > > >> What else is new? :-)
> >
> > > > > > > > >> Even a family needs order and control, doesn't it?
> >
> > > > > > > > >> Don't you observe the order of nature? The routines of the 
> > > > > > > > >> natural
> > > > > > > > >> world serve a definite purpose. Eat or be eaten. :-)
> >
> > > > > > > > >> On May 3, 12:50 pm, the taoist shaman<[email protected]>  
> > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > >>> are most people really sheepole ? can i get a ya or nay- 
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