"beyond influence and at the same time the crux of influence" has often been described as some sort of godstate or state of oneness, as you say. From this point of view I understand Pat's motivation to show people that there really is something more omni.
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > "are inclined to control thought. " > > I suppose that until a person is able to step into the view of the > witness, and observe what does and doesn't influence, and know who is > influenced, your statement may be true. Once a person is able to > witness themselves in such a manner, they are beyond influence (and at > the same time the crux of influence), as they understand that the > influences in their experience are an expression of themselves as One. > > On Jun 5, 10:51 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > But the brain is subject to society- like it or not. Family, religion, > > governments are inclined to control thought. > > > > "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" by Betty Edwards. > > > > There have been studies which encourage the elderly to use their non- > > favored hand for tasks to spark new dendrites and synapses plus mix-it- > > up in other areas rather than rely on habits- this is to stave off > > dementia, etc. > > > > On Jun 5, 6:26 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you are on to something, Mardi. Whole brain mind function is > > > cutting edge stuff. We are just beginning, as a whole, to consider > > > its importance and effects in our lives. My take, is that it is > > > required for such states as deep sleep, quiet mind, and what has been > > > known through the ages as master yogi capabilities. My take is that > > > our states activate brain functioning, and all other body functioning, > > > and formulate our health and wellness. I am hard pressed to find > > > literature on integrated brain (right and left) that is more than a > > > scientific brief. I guess we are just beginning to realize ourselves > > > in this area. > > > > > On Jun 1, 10:04 am, Mardi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I think that the many ways that people react to ideas expressed > > > > through images and ideas expressed through words are what make those > > > > ideas more rich and meaningful. We all bring our personal vision and > > > > construct larger ideas. > > > > > > I don't see symbols and imagery limited to the visual. The best > > > > writing evokes imagery and symbolic thinking can be applied to any > > > > idea whether it is an abstract or concrete idea, whether expressed > > > > verbally or non-verbally. I think of symbolism as a right brain, > > > > wholisitic way of thinking which accesses multiple lines of thought > > > > and creates innumerable avenues for thought to wander down. This is > in > > > > contrast to left brain thinking which is focused on details rather > > > > than the whole and is verbal and linear. I think that the most > > > > satisfying insights come to us by using both methods in conjunction > > > > with each other, interweaving the left and right brain to "see" a > > > > myriad of potential ideas. > > > > > > On May 17, 7:52 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I don't think people have the same reaction to images unless they > are > > > > > forced/coerced by society- but it depends on what kind of > symbol/image > > > > > we are talking about. > > > > > > > On May 15, 5:46 pm, Menfranco Laws <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi everybody! I just would like to ask you a question about > images > > > > > > since you are taking about images. > > > > > > Do images mean the same thing to different people? Or everyone of > us > > > > > > sees those images in a different way? What do you think? > > > > > > My regards, Menfranco > > > > > > > > On May 16, 6:39 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Just settling in to a new attempt on the great work Chris. > > > > > > > There are fantastic images in glaciers - natural products that > > > > > > > resemble 'our worst fears'. > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 2:15 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry- I clicked a blank "send"! > > > > > > > > > > Jesus is also the man/god symbol- among others. I will have > to keep re- > > > > > > > > reading to see what arguments can be made but there is also > the > > > > > > > > personal to consider when discussing symbolism. > > > > > > > > > > Strange co-incidence about Star Wars. I either donated or > tossed a > > > > > > > > huge cache of figures, etc. and my daughter gasped as I guess > they are > > > > > > > > quite hot on e-bay. I think I would get depressed seeing > what's hot- > > > > > > > > like Antiques Roadshow. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway- amazing what technology has done re war- Earth Wars. > > > > > > > > > > Symbols and language do play a huge role, don't they? How > words are > > > > > > > > distorted in meaning or motive, > > > > > > > > > > On May 10, 2:59 am, the taoist shaman <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > u talk like yoda , yoda was F in sweet . > > > > > > > > > '' i don't believe it ! " ----LUKE > > > > > > > > > > > " mmm, that is why u fail . '' ---YODA > > > > > > > > > > > freekin sweet , im sorry u can go on with your conversation > now > > > > > > > > > > > ps. che was originally a symbol but now how many people > understand > > > > > > > > > what he represented , could u make the same argument for > jesus or the > > > > > > > > > pentagram for that matter , or the white flag with a red > cross sailed > > > > > > > > > by columbus , or the imagery on the american dollar bill ? > > > > > > > > > > > rigsy03 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I've changed my mind about Che. He is too transitory to > be a symbol. A > > > > > > > > > > t-shirt or poster does not a symbol make. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 5, 2:29 pm, the taoist shaman <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > the immage of chae is a good example > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 10:23 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Given the current buzz... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder about the debate to show the Crucifixion of > Christ back in > > > > > > > > > > > > the day. Was it considered too graphic? And think of > the multitude of > > > > > > > > > > > > images of Christ's face created by artists of many > ages and cultures. > > > > > > > > > > > > How does an image become a symbol? 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