Interested in the gaps rigsy; but i respect your privacy.

Parents certainly dont have anything like the power to define or
determine the lives of their children, you're absolutely right; they
just have, or feel they have (or ought to have) an overwhelming
obligation to do everything possible to ensure a healthy, happy, and
prosperous life for their angels.

Btw, a gentle breeze for those sultry nights..."Copa de Amor", by
Kenny G :)



On Jul 23, 2:00 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> I just gave you the educational framework, paradox. I am guessing my
> father's intention was to provide me with some stability. Filling in
> the spaces is the rest of the story. So going back to school was a
> natural choice later on.
>
> I don't think parents have divine power over the lives of their
> children. But I did/do have a tough guardian angel. :-)
>
> I think some people enter the military to get their life in order- but
> that's another subject.
>
> On Jul 22, 1:26 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I guess its the thing about fathers, rigsy; we need to cover off every
> > one of life's angles for our little angels :)
>
> > Sounds like you had a rich and diverse growth path; explains your
> > temperament, i think :)
>
> > On Jul 21, 8:16 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > The humidity is lifting today- it's been awful!
>
> > > I started boarding school at age 5- kindergarten till I was 10. Age
> > > 7+two months at camp up north. I think both were my father's ideas-
> > > for love of me.  It gave me order, disipline, education,
> > > socialization...to cope with the rest of my life! :-) Later- female
> > > Catholic high school and women's college for two years and I bailed
> > > even though they were going to allow me to graduate in 3 years. A big
> > > mistake. I did sneak off to public school in 8th and 9th grades till
> > > mother put her foot down. I finished up college at the state
> > > university after my divorce then entered grad school but quit after 45
> > > credits. My life would have been very different had my father lived-
> > > it could have been worse! lol
>
> > > On Jul 21, 11:58 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Yeah, i read that you're experiencing something of a heatwave; lots of
> > > > tropical cocktail delights then? :)
>
> > > > So, you're the part product of a convent, rigsy? Interesting; how did
> > > > you find the experience?
>
> > > > On Jul 20, 2:39 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I was happy to find Peggy Lee recorded this song though I haven't
> > > > > heard it- I admired her voice along with Ella Fitzgerald's. This would
> > > > > be a great day for Lee's "Fever". We have a heat index of 113 F.!!!
> > > > > Anyway, I have a pretty good memory of lyrics as mother wasn't a
> > > > > storybook reader and the radio and 78 rpm records were my nursery
> > > > > songs and stories until the nuns read to us or I could read on my own.
>
> > > > > On Jul 17, 1:18 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Phew; got so caught up in your ballad, i was just about to 
> > > > > > singalong,
> > > > > > caught myself just in time. Visions of my daughter's animated
> > > > > > exlamation..."Yes! I knew it! I told you so!" Lol.
>
> > > > > > The admiration's mutual...what?? That does't sound right...? You 
> > > > > > know
> > > > > > what i mean...: i think i need a lie down....lol.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 17, 1:30 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I can admire men and still not want to be one! No, paradox, "I 
> > > > > > > enjoy
> > > > > > > being a girl..." (song)
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 16, 7:29 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > You dont know what you're missing, rigsy! lol.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 12:53 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > I could never be a man- in body form or behavior. Thank you, 
> > > > > > > > > Lord, for
> > > > > > > > > allowing me to be a female!!! :-)
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 1:41 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > I have quite some considerable experience of the emotional
> > > > > > > > > > responsiveness of the fairer sex, rigsy :) Personally, i 
> > > > > > > > > > think the
> > > > > > > > > > gender difference, if there is one, is more emotional 
> > > > > > > > > > maturity and
> > > > > > > > > > honesty than anything "structural.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 12:04 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Tony and Paradox.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Except we can clean up our hard drive!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I should have said "reactions" rather than moods- 
> > > > > > > > > > > esp. since
> > > > > > > > > > > females have the rep of being moody creatures. I'm not 
> > > > > > > > > > > sure if it is
> > > > > > > > > > > memory or the sc that is triggered by irrational 
> > > > > > > > > > > associations.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 3:22 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Not as familiar with the terrain regarding imagination 
> > > > > > > > > > > > and creativity,
> > > > > > > > > > > > rigsy; but some thoughts; imagination probably employs 
> > > > > > > > > > > > the same object
> > > > > > > > > > > > representation and manipulation routines as event 
> > > > > > > > > > > > "simulation",
> > > > > > > > > > > > certainly occupies the same higher order region; the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > process is just
> > > > > > > > > > > > less well tethered; an analogy that comes to mind is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > that of the rider
> > > > > > > > > > > > whose handling on the reins becomes more adept the more 
> > > > > > > > > > > > confident he/
> > > > > > > > > > > > she becomes, and the more conditioned the horse gets 
> > > > > > > > > > > > over time.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Creativity is more difficult to pin down; my intuitive 
> > > > > > > > > > > > sense is that
> > > > > > > > > > > > it's probably defined in the versatility of transition 
> > > > > > > > > > > > of isomorphic
> > > > > > > > > > > > brain "states"; so its not so much a "discrete" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > attribute, but more a
> > > > > > > > > > > > "bell curve" function.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Difficult to say about unexplained moods; could be the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > result of
> > > > > > > > > > > > chemical or homeostatic imbalances, tensions, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > unresolved mental
> > > > > > > > > > > > phenomena, or any of a long list of things really; what 
> > > > > > > > > > > > do you think?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 12:46 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes- that is too technical for me. :-) I see the sc 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > as the hidden
> > > > > > > > > > > > > currents of a river- at least this morning that's my 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > view. Where do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > you think imagination and creativity spring from? Or 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > unexplainable
> > > > > > > > > > > > > moods? Or the irrational? Don't be too technical, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > please.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 3:36 am, paradox <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting psychoanalytic approach; i'm sort of a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > little closer to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the "technical" school; seems to me that dreams and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > phantasies are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretty much the same "stuff" as conscious thought, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > but without the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > coherence, constraints, and "echolocation" of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > input, cognition,  and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the autobiographical self; in that sense, we think 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (neural mapping)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretty much 24/7, conscious, subconscious, or 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > otherwise; it's just so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > much more elegant when we're conscious, or 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > daydreaming, curiously :).
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re the "great conductor"; in this great cauldron of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > distributed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mapping, something has to "direct" and prioritise 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > attention; that's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the job of dispositional affect (value), or 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > emotion, through amygdala,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hippocampus, and associated wide area networks. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Antonio Damasio has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > produced some very interesting, very readable and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > easily accessible
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > works in this area.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 13, 1:51 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The "great conductor" to where? The sc may color 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our thoughts and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actions but I have a problem giving it a thought 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > process similar to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ego or super-ego. The fact that we cannot 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > control our sc makes us
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > want to control it- it can be dangerous or 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > embarassing or distracting,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for instance. I do think it adds a dramatic 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > complexity to our thoughts
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and actions- esp. those "Freudian slips"! :-) 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another possibilty is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that the sc is a warehouse for our unresolved 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > selves that pitch and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > twist in our minds during dreams or daydreams and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes influence
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solutions by interrupting logic, problem solving, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comprehension or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > relationships. It may also serve the purpose of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > keeping us honest-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somehow the mind has to find a balance- "acting 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as if" only goes so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > far.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 13, 5:13 am, paradox 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mando, dont forget that our thoughts are 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also "merely things", and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our sub-conscious also "thinks"; "emotion" is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the great conductor.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 12, 2:18 pm, Mando <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how are we easily swayed from our thought by 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > merely things? is that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > humans are focused or controlled by the 
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