Yes...it's been a sombre weekend; the tragedy in Norway, the death of Amy Winehouse; the loss of such great promise. I guess that Freud lives through his lifelong works.
On Jul 24, 1:46 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > Re intentions of parents: The best often go awry, however. > > Somehow the massacre in Norway recalled the bombing of Marine barracks > in Beruit plus other news and the sultry temps no longer kept my > attention. And the death of Lucian Freud, painter. Etc. Heavy thoughts > rather than temps. > > Thank you- but don't have any Loggins on hand. I sort of quit with > Smashing Pumpkins, Nine Inch Nails et al. But your thought was sweet. > > On Jul 23, 6:21 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Interested in the gaps rigsy; but i respect your privacy. > > > Parents certainly dont have anything like the power to define or > > determine the lives of their children, you're absolutely right; they > > just have, or feel they have (or ought to have) an overwhelming > > obligation to do everything possible to ensure a healthy, happy, and > > prosperous life for their angels. > > > Btw, a gentle breeze for those sultry nights..."Copa de Amor", by > > Kenny G :) > > > On Jul 23, 2:00 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I just gave you the educational framework, paradox. I am guessing my > > > father's intention was to provide me with some stability. Filling in > > > the spaces is the rest of the story. So going back to school was a > > > natural choice later on. > > > > I don't think parents have divine power over the lives of their > > > children. But I did/do have a tough guardian angel. :-) > > > > I think some people enter the military to get their life in order- but > > > that's another subject. > > > > On Jul 22, 1:26 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I guess its the thing about fathers, rigsy; we need to cover off every > > > > one of life's angles for our little angels :) > > > > > Sounds like you had a rich and diverse growth path; explains your > > > > temperament, i think :) > > > > > On Jul 21, 8:16 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > The humidity is lifting today- it's been awful! > > > > > > I started boarding school at age 5- kindergarten till I was 10. Age > > > > > 7+two months at camp up north. I think both were my father's ideas- > > > > > for love of me. It gave me order, disipline, education, > > > > > socialization...to cope with the rest of my life! :-) Later- female > > > > > Catholic high school and women's college for two years and I bailed > > > > > even though they were going to allow me to graduate in 3 years. A big > > > > > mistake. I did sneak off to public school in 8th and 9th grades till > > > > > mother put her foot down. I finished up college at the state > > > > > university after my divorce then entered grad school but quit after 45 > > > > > credits. My life would have been very different had my father lived- > > > > > it could have been worse! lol > > > > > > On Jul 21, 11:58 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Yeah, i read that you're experiencing something of a heatwave; lots > > > > > > of > > > > > > tropical cocktail delights then? :) > > > > > > > So, you're the part product of a convent, rigsy? Interesting; how > > > > > > did > > > > > > you find the experience? > > > > > > > On Jul 20, 2:39 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I was happy to find Peggy Lee recorded this song though I haven't > > > > > > > heard it- I admired her voice along with Ella Fitzgerald's. This > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > be a great day for Lee's "Fever". We have a heat index of 113 > > > > > > > F.!!! > > > > > > > Anyway, I have a pretty good memory of lyrics as mother wasn't a > > > > > > > storybook reader and the radio and 78 rpm records were my nursery > > > > > > > songs and stories until the nuns read to us or I could read on my > > > > > > > own. > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 1:18 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Phew; got so caught up in your ballad, i was just about to > > > > > > > > singalong, > > > > > > > > caught myself just in time. Visions of my daughter's animated > > > > > > > > exlamation..."Yes! I knew it! I told you so!" Lol. > > > > > > > > > The admiration's mutual...what?? That does't sound right...? > > > > > > > > You know > > > > > > > > what i mean...: i think i need a lie down....lol. > > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 1:30 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I can admire men and still not want to be one! No, paradox, > > > > > > > > > "I enjoy > > > > > > > > > being a girl..." (song) > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 7:29 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You dont know what you're missing, rigsy! lol. > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 12:53 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I could never be a man- in body form or behavior. Thank > > > > > > > > > > > you, Lord, for > > > > > > > > > > > allowing me to be a female!!! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 1:41 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have quite some considerable experience of the > > > > > > > > > > > > emotional > > > > > > > > > > > > responsiveness of the fairer sex, rigsy :) Personally, > > > > > > > > > > > > i think the > > > > > > > > > > > > gender difference, if there is one, is more emotional > > > > > > > > > > > > maturity and > > > > > > > > > > > > honesty than anything "structural. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 12:04 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Tony and Paradox. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Except we can clean up our hard drive! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I should have said "reactions" rather than > > > > > > > > > > > > > moods- esp. since > > > > > > > > > > > > > females have the rep of being moody creatures. I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > > not sure if it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > memory or the sc that is triggered by irrational > > > > > > > > > > > > > associations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 3:22 am, paradox <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not as familiar with the terrain regarding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > imagination and creativity, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rigsy; but some thoughts; imagination probably > > > > > > > > > > > > > > employs the same object > > > > > > > > > > > > > > representation and manipulation routines as event > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "simulation", > > > > > > > > > > > > > > certainly occupies the same higher order region; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the process is just > > > > > > > > > > > > > > less well tethered; an analogy that comes to mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that of the rider > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whose handling on the reins becomes more adept the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more confident he/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she becomes, and the more conditioned the horse > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gets over time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Creativity is more difficult to pin down; my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intuitive sense is that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's probably defined in the versatility of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transition of isomorphic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brain "states"; so its not so much a "discrete" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attribute, but more a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "bell curve" function. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Difficult to say about unexplained moods; could be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the result of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chemical or homeostatic imbalances, tensions, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unresolved mental > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phenomena, or any of a long list of things really; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 12:46 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes- that is too technical for me. :-) I see the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sc as the hidden > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > currents of a river- at least this morning that's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my view. Where do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you think imagination and creativity spring from? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or unexplainable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moods? Or the irrational? Don't be too technical, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 3:36 am, paradox > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting psychoanalytic approach; i'm sort > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of a little closer to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the "technical" school; seems to me that dreams > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and phantasies are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretty much the same "stuff" as conscious > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thought, but without the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > coherence, constraints, and "echolocation" of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > input, cognition, and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the autobiographical self; in that sense, we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think (neural mapping) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretty much 24/7, conscious, subconscious, or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > otherwise; it's just so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > much more elegant when we're conscious, or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daydreaming, curiously :). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re the "great conductor"; in this great > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cauldron of distributed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mapping, something has to "direct" and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prioritise attention; that's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the job of dispositional affect (value), or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emotion, through amygdala, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hippocampus, and associated wide area networks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Antonio Damasio has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > produced some very interesting, very readable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and easily accessible > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works in this area. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 13, 1:51 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The "great conductor" to where? The sc may > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > color our thoughts and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actions but I have a problem giving it a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thought process similar to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ego or super-ego. The fact that we cannot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > control our sc makes us > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > want to control it- it can be dangerous or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > embarassing or distracting, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for instance. I do think it adds a dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > complexity to our thoughts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and actions- esp. those "Freudian slips"! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another possibilty is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that the sc is a warehouse for our unresolved > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > selves that pitch and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > twist in our minds during dreams or daydreams > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and sometimes influence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solutions by interrupting logic, problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solving, comprehension or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > relationships. It may also serve the purpose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of keeping us honest- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somehow the mind has to find a balance- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "acting as if" only goes so > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
