Re intentions of parents: The best often go awry, however. Somehow the massacre in Norway recalled the bombing of Marine barracks in Beruit plus other news and the sultry temps no longer kept my attention. And the death of Lucian Freud, painter. Etc. Heavy thoughts rather than temps.
Thank you- but don't have any Loggins on hand. I sort of quit with Smashing Pumpkins, Nine Inch Nails et al. But your thought was sweet. On Jul 23, 6:21 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > Interested in the gaps rigsy; but i respect your privacy. > > Parents certainly dont have anything like the power to define or > determine the lives of their children, you're absolutely right; they > just have, or feel they have (or ought to have) an overwhelming > obligation to do everything possible to ensure a healthy, happy, and > prosperous life for their angels. > > Btw, a gentle breeze for those sultry nights..."Copa de Amor", by > Kenny G :) > > On Jul 23, 2:00 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I just gave you the educational framework, paradox. I am guessing my > > father's intention was to provide me with some stability. Filling in > > the spaces is the rest of the story. So going back to school was a > > natural choice later on. > > > I don't think parents have divine power over the lives of their > > children. But I did/do have a tough guardian angel. :-) > > > I think some people enter the military to get their life in order- but > > that's another subject. > > > On Jul 22, 1:26 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I guess its the thing about fathers, rigsy; we need to cover off every > > > one of life's angles for our little angels :) > > > > Sounds like you had a rich and diverse growth path; explains your > > > temperament, i think :) > > > > On Jul 21, 8:16 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The humidity is lifting today- it's been awful! > > > > > I started boarding school at age 5- kindergarten till I was 10. Age > > > > 7+two months at camp up north. I think both were my father's ideas- > > > > for love of me. It gave me order, disipline, education, > > > > socialization...to cope with the rest of my life! :-) Later- female > > > > Catholic high school and women's college for two years and I bailed > > > > even though they were going to allow me to graduate in 3 years. A big > > > > mistake. I did sneak off to public school in 8th and 9th grades till > > > > mother put her foot down. I finished up college at the state > > > > university after my divorce then entered grad school but quit after 45 > > > > credits. My life would have been very different had my father lived- > > > > it could have been worse! lol > > > > > On Jul 21, 11:58 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, i read that you're experiencing something of a heatwave; lots of > > > > > tropical cocktail delights then? :) > > > > > > So, you're the part product of a convent, rigsy? Interesting; how did > > > > > you find the experience? > > > > > > On Jul 20, 2:39 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I was happy to find Peggy Lee recorded this song though I haven't > > > > > > heard it- I admired her voice along with Ella Fitzgerald's. This > > > > > > would > > > > > > be a great day for Lee's "Fever". We have a heat index of 113 F.!!! > > > > > > Anyway, I have a pretty good memory of lyrics as mother wasn't a > > > > > > storybook reader and the radio and 78 rpm records were my nursery > > > > > > songs and stories until the nuns read to us or I could read on my > > > > > > own. > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 1:18 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Phew; got so caught up in your ballad, i was just about to > > > > > > > singalong, > > > > > > > caught myself just in time. Visions of my daughter's animated > > > > > > > exlamation..."Yes! I knew it! I told you so!" Lol. > > > > > > > > The admiration's mutual...what?? That does't sound right...? You > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > what i mean...: i think i need a lie down....lol. > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 1:30 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I can admire men and still not want to be one! No, paradox, "I > > > > > > > > enjoy > > > > > > > > being a girl..." (song) > > > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 7:29 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You dont know what you're missing, rigsy! lol. > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 12:53 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I could never be a man- in body form or behavior. Thank > > > > > > > > > > you, Lord, for > > > > > > > > > > allowing me to be a female!!! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 1:41 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have quite some considerable experience of the emotional > > > > > > > > > > > responsiveness of the fairer sex, rigsy :) Personally, i > > > > > > > > > > > think the > > > > > > > > > > > gender difference, if there is one, is more emotional > > > > > > > > > > > maturity and > > > > > > > > > > > honesty than anything "structural. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 12:04 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Tony and Paradox. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Except we can clean up our hard drive! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I should have said "reactions" rather than moods- > > > > > > > > > > > > esp. since > > > > > > > > > > > > females have the rep of being moody creatures. I'm not > > > > > > > > > > > > sure if it is > > > > > > > > > > > > memory or the sc that is triggered by irrational > > > > > > > > > > > > associations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 3:22 am, paradox <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not as familiar with the terrain regarding > > > > > > > > > > > > > imagination and creativity, > > > > > > > > > > > > > rigsy; but some thoughts; imagination probably > > > > > > > > > > > > > employs the same object > > > > > > > > > > > > > representation and manipulation routines as event > > > > > > > > > > > > > "simulation", > > > > > > > > > > > > > certainly occupies the same higher order region; the > > > > > > > > > > > > > process is just > > > > > > > > > > > > > less well tethered; an analogy that comes to mind is > > > > > > > > > > > > > that of the rider > > > > > > > > > > > > > whose handling on the reins becomes more adept the > > > > > > > > > > > > > more confident he/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > she becomes, and the more conditioned the horse gets > > > > > > > > > > > > > over time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Creativity is more difficult to pin down; my > > > > > > > > > > > > > intuitive sense is that > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's probably defined in the versatility of > > > > > > > > > > > > > transition of isomorphic > > > > > > > > > > > > > brain "states"; so its not so much a "discrete" > > > > > > > > > > > > > attribute, but more a > > > > > > > > > > > > > "bell curve" function. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Difficult to say about unexplained moods; could be > > > > > > > > > > > > > the result of > > > > > > > > > > > > > chemical or homeostatic imbalances, tensions, > > > > > > > > > > > > > unresolved mental > > > > > > > > > > > > > phenomena, or any of a long list of things really; > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 12:46 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes- that is too technical for me. :-) I see the sc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as the hidden > > > > > > > > > > > > > > currents of a river- at least this morning that's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my view. Where do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you think imagination and creativity spring from? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or unexplainable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moods? Or the irrational? Don't be too technical, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 3:36 am, paradox <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting psychoanalytic approach; i'm sort of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a little closer to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the "technical" school; seems to me that dreams > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and phantasies are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretty much the same "stuff" as conscious > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thought, but without the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > coherence, constraints, and "echolocation" of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > input, cognition, and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the autobiographical self; in that sense, we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think (neural mapping) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretty much 24/7, conscious, subconscious, or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > otherwise; it's just so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > much more elegant when we're conscious, or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daydreaming, curiously :). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re the "great conductor"; in this great cauldron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of distributed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mapping, something has to "direct" and prioritise > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attention; that's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the job of dispositional affect (value), or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emotion, through amygdala, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hippocampus, and associated wide area networks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Antonio Damasio has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > produced some very interesting, very readable and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > easily accessible > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works in this area. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 13, 1:51 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The "great conductor" to where? The sc may > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > color our thoughts and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actions but I have a problem giving it a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thought process similar to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ego or super-ego. The fact that we cannot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > control our sc makes us > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > want to control it- it can be dangerous or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > embarassing or distracting, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for instance. I do think it adds a dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > complexity to our thoughts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and actions- esp. those "Freudian slips"! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another possibilty is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that the sc is a warehouse for our unresolved > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > selves that pitch and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > twist in our minds during dreams or daydreams > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and sometimes influence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solutions by interrupting logic, problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solving, comprehension or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > relationships. It may also serve the purpose of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > keeping us honest- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somehow the mind has to find a balance- "acting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as if" only goes so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > far. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 13, 5:13 am, paradox > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mando, dont forget that our thoughts are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also "merely things", and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our sub-conscious also "thinks"; "emotion" is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the great conductor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 12, 2:18 pm, Mando > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how are we easily swayed from our thought > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by merely things? is that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > humans are focused or controlled by the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub-conscious...- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
