Lee if you have that little card issued by the bank so you can get your cash out of a machine that is a debit card then you have one..and it limits you to the cash you have on hand.. Personally I like the electronic banking here in the Netherlands it and the banking system is very excellent.. I personally have no credit cards either just do not like them.. My wife has one for emergencies but that is it. Allan
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]>wrote: > Well Allan, > > That is exatly the point. I have no credit or debit cards. I do it > on porpouse, I do not wish to live beyond my means. I mean of course > that if I have not the ready cash to pay for somthing, then I would > rather go without it, than owe somebody money for it. > > Yes this means that if I do not have the cash to pay for something > then I go without it until I can afford to pay for it. But really > this is the best thing for me. My will power is nil, I have a > massivly addictive personality, so it is best for me to live this way, > if I can't afford it, I will do without it, if I have the cash then I > will have what I want. Credit, debit no no no, don't take a chance on > me with that coz I will fuck you up. And of course by fucking you up, > I'll fuck myself up. > > > No no no, it is easy. If I want something and I have not the cash to > pay for it then I'll save until I do have the cash. Take something > now and pay for it later! Are you fucking mad? I'll fucking knock ya > mate, don't give me credit, it will get you and me in trouble. No no > no, no cash no purchase. > > This is the way I must live my life. > > On Aug 4, 8:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > Lee to bad you don't live over here yu would just transfer the money to > > their bank account via a ATM or Debit card depending what you call it,, > > then the send you the package or you pic it up. > > no need to use a credit card electronic banking can be great.. > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I don't e-bay myself Rigsy, I don't do credit and so have no cards. > > > > > As to the supper rich, what is the uses of keeping millions in the > > > bank? I mean you can't spend it all before you die, you can't take it > > > with you, so I guess you leave it to the kids, and then they still > > > wont be able to spend it all, nor their kids. > > > > > Money simply does not 'trickle down', those who have vast ammounts of > > > it do all they can to keep it, and I can see no logical reasons for > > > doing so. Share the wealth, yes indeed. > > > > > Materialism, yes I guess you are right, although I hope not. I think > > > whne the day comes when the whole world is fed and has a nice pile of > > > stuff it may cease to be so important. Once again I must declare > > > 'Robot Work Force' Yeah baby come on, I hope I see the day. > > > > > On Aug 4, 1:01 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Have you checked out e-bay? Plus the super-rich have not changed > their > > > > desires/shopping patterns as far as I can tell. It will be difficult/ > > > > impossible to inhibit materialism as it springs from insecurity or > > > > hostility and is held as a positive value in a capitalist society. In > > > > a sense, we "barter" cash for goods and services. > > > > > > On Aug 3, 9:47 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Indeed I am, I don't think bartering is a viable option. > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 2:51 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > You are talking about the super-rich. Money attracts thieves and > > > > > > lawyers. Most want money to remain independent and "just enough" > is > > > > > > just fine. We could barter. > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 6:44 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Meh! It's all the same ole same ole innit . > > > > > > > > > It's greed plain and simple, I think how much money does one > perosn > > > > > > > need to libe as they wish. > > > > > > > > > Why do the extreamly rich do all they can to keep their money, > I > > > mean > > > > > > > what are they going to do with it? > > > > > > > > > Ultimatly we must find a better way, a replacement for material > > > > > > > wealth, and get rid of the whole concept of money. How though > > > ummmm? > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 8:43 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rigsy,, boy are you a sensitive extreme conservative > republican > > > > > > > > as president Rosevelt put it.. a conservative a person with > two > > > perfectly > > > > > > > > good legs and refuses to walk... > > > > > > > > > > all wealthy people have no right to live off the poor... > they > > > all > > > > > > > > regardless of political view or party need to pay their share > of > > > taxes! > > > > > > > > > > don't tell me that they create job because they don't. > > > > > > > > > > as for people sending money to relatives.. you put a maximum > > > that can be > > > > > > > > sent tax free. say 5000 dollars. > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:09 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Who would invest under your system? > > > > > > > > > > > What about the government reducing its expenditures by 35%? > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing's to stop wealthy Liberals/Democrats from sending > their > > > excess > > > > > > > > > wealth to their government(s)-federal, state, local. Why > don't > > > > > > > > > they? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > Immigrants send money to their relatives also. I thought > the > > > world was > > > > > > > > > flat, at last! > > > > > > > > > > > Why would people turn their labor/income over to a bloated/ > > > > > > > > > spendthrift/ incompetant government like robots/slaves? > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 2, 2:31 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Being american,, I think taxes are necessary but taxes > need > > > to be > > > > > > > > > dependent > > > > > > > > > > income.. the greater the income the greater the taxes.. > and > > > removal of > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > tax exemptions especially on capital gains..... > > > > > > > > > > > > I am beginning to think that a petition needs to be > > > circulated placing > > > > > > > > > > a mandatory 35% on income over $250,000.oo with no > > > exemptions. > > > > > > > > > > > > That would go a long way to helping the relive the > national > > > debt.. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also think all nation should have a 35% tax on money > > > leaving a nation.. > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text > - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > -- ( ) I_D Allan If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
