Hehh as I say though, my ATM card allows me to do one thing and one thing only, take money out the ATM. It is not a debit card at all.
I have one bank account, and in reality it is the same old building sociaty savings acount I had since I was a little kid. So no current account, no credit or debit, no cheque book, I deal in cash and cash only. On Aug 5, 1:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > you mean you do not buy your groceries using your ATM card? actually I > know that you can take your ATM card and use it at the grocery or any other > store for that matter that is how business is transacted either that or > cash.. there is no such thing as checks.. > your ATM card in reality is also a debit card,, all though it is not a > credit card/ debit it is an ATM/debit card.. > ideal is very popular over here but it is a local dutch system involving > dutch banks only very cool and safe.. > Allan > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ahhh Allan, that may be the case for you, but it is not for me. I do > > have an ATM card, but it is not a debit card also. > > > On Aug 5, 7:49 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Lee if you have that little card issued by the bank so you can get your > > > cash out of a machine that is a debit card then you have one..and it > > limits > > > you to the cash you have on hand.. Personally I like the electronic > > > banking here in the Netherlands it and the banking system is very > > > excellent.. I personally have no credit cards either just do not like > > > them.. My wife has one for emergencies but that is it. > > > Allan > > > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > Well Allan, > > > > > That is exatly the point. I have no credit or debit cards. I do it > > > > on porpouse, I do not wish to live beyond my means. I mean of course > > > > that if I have not the ready cash to pay for somthing, then I would > > > > rather go without it, than owe somebody money for it. > > > > > Yes this means that if I do not have the cash to pay for something > > > > then I go without it until I can afford to pay for it. But really > > > > this is the best thing for me. My will power is nil, I have a > > > > massivly addictive personality, so it is best for me to live this way, > > > > if I can't afford it, I will do without it, if I have the cash then I > > > > will have what I want. Credit, debit no no no, don't take a chance on > > > > me with that coz I will fuck you up. And of course by fucking you up, > > > > I'll fuck myself up. > > > > > No no no, it is easy. If I want something and I have not the cash to > > > > pay for it then I'll save until I do have the cash. Take something > > > > now and pay for it later! Are you fucking mad? I'll fucking knock ya > > > > mate, don't give me credit, it will get you and me in trouble. No no > > > > no, no cash no purchase. > > > > > This is the way I must live my life. > > > > > On Aug 4, 8:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Lee to bad you don't live over here yu would just transfer the money > > to > > > > > their bank account via a ATM or Debit card depending what you call > > it,, > > > > > then the send you the package or you pic it up. > > > > > no need to use a credit card electronic banking can be great.. > > > > > Allan > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > I don't e-bay myself Rigsy, I don't do credit and so have no cards. > > > > > > > As to the supper rich, what is the uses of keeping millions in the > > > > > > bank? I mean you can't spend it all before you die, you can't take > > it > > > > > > with you, so I guess you leave it to the kids, and then they still > > > > > > wont be able to spend it all, nor their kids. > > > > > > > Money simply does not 'trickle down', those who have vast ammounts > > of > > > > > > it do all they can to keep it, and I can see no logical reasons for > > > > > > doing so. Share the wealth, yes indeed. > > > > > > > Materialism, yes I guess you are right, although I hope not. I > > think > > > > > > whne the day comes when the whole world is fed and has a nice pile > > of > > > > > > stuff it may cease to be so important. Once again I must declare > > > > > > 'Robot Work Force' Yeah baby come on, I hope I see the day. > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 1:01 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Have you checked out e-bay? Plus the super-rich have not changed > > > > their > > > > > > > desires/shopping patterns as far as I can tell. It will be > > difficult/ > > > > > > > impossible to inhibit materialism as it springs from insecurity > > or > > > > > > > hostility and is held as a positive value in a capitalist > > society. In > > > > > > > a sense, we "barter" cash for goods and services. > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 9:47 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Indeed I am, I don't think bartering is a viable option. > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 2:51 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You are talking about the super-rich. Money attracts thieves > > and > > > > > > > > > lawyers. Most want money to remain independent and "just > > enough" > > > > is > > > > > > > > > just fine. We could barter. > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 6:44 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Meh! It's all the same ole same ole innit . > > > > > > > > > > > It's greed plain and simple, I think how much money does > > one > > > > perosn > > > > > > > > > > need to libe as they wish. > > > > > > > > > > > Why do the extreamly rich do all they can to keep their > > money, > > > > I > > > > > > mean > > > > > > > > > > what are they going to do with it? > > > > > > > > > > > Ultimatly we must find a better way, a replacement for > > material > > > > > > > > > > wealth, and get rid of the whole concept of money. How > > though > > > > > > ummmm? > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 8:43 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Rigsy,, boy are you a sensitive extreme conservative > > > > republican > > > > > > > > > > > as president Rosevelt put it.. a conservative a person > > with > > > > two > > > > > > perfectly > > > > > > > > > > > good legs and refuses to walk... > > > > > > > > > > > > all wealthy people have no right to live off the poor... > > > > they > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > regardless of political view or party need to pay their > > share > > > > of > > > > > > taxes! > > > > > > > > > > > > don't tell me that they create job because they don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > as for people sending money to relatives.. you put a > > maximum > > > > > > that can be > > > > > > > > > > > sent tax free. say 5000 dollars. > > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:09 PM, rigsy03 < > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Who would invest under your system? > > > > > > > > > > > > > What about the government reducing its expenditures by > > 35%? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing's to stop wealthy Liberals/Democrats from > > sending > > > > their > > > > > > excess > > > > > > > > > > > > wealth to their government(s)-federal, state, local. > > Why > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > > > > they? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Immigrants send money to their relatives also. I > > thought > > > > the > > > > > > world was > > > > > > > > > > > > flat, at last! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why would people turn their labor/income over to a > > bloated/ > > > > > > > > > > > > spendthrift/ incompetant government like > > robots/slaves? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 2, 2:31 am, allan deheretic < > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Being american,, I think taxes are necessary but > > taxes > > > > need > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > > > dependent > > > > > > > > > > > > > income.. the greater the income the greater the > > taxes.. > > > > and > > > > > > removal of > > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > tax exemptions especially on capital gains..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am beginning to think that a petition needs to be > > > > > > circulated placing > > > > > > > > > > > > > a mandatory 35% on income over $250,000.oo with no > > > > > > exemptions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That would go a long way to helping the relive the > > > > national > > > > > > debt.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also think all nation should have a 35% tax on > > money > > > > > > leaving a nation.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted > > text > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > -- > > > > > ( > > > > > ) > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > > ( > > > ) > > > I_D Allan > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
