Indeed, but my strong morality forbis that!
On Aug 9, 12:34 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > Or you could loot and rob which is the current sport. > > On Aug 8, 6:35 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I'm in the UK Allen. But as I say this suits me, I don';t want > > credit, I don't require deit either. I trust the cash I have in my > > hand and if I have not enough cash for a purchase, then I'll saveup or > > go without. > > > On Aug 5, 8:55 pm, Allan Heretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Not sure what country you live and bank in even the U S has ATM/debit > > > cards. Because people do not know how to use them.. That is another > > > story,, what I would suggest is go and talk to your banker about just > > > everything your ATM card > > > Allan > > > > On 5 aug. 2011, at 14:58, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hehh as I say though, my ATM card allows me to do one thing and one > > > > thing only, take money out the ATM. It is not a debit card at all. > > > > > I have one bank account, and in reality it is the same old building > > > > sociaty savings acount I had since I was a little kid. So no current > > > > account, no credit or debit, no cheque book, I deal in cash and cash > > > > only. > > > > > On Aug 5, 1:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> you mean you do not buy your groceries using your ATM card? actually > > > >> I > > > >> know that you can take your ATM card and use it at the grocery or any > > > >> other > > > >> store for that matter that is how business is transacted either that > > > >> or > > > >> cash.. there is no such thing as checks.. > > > >> your ATM card in reality is also a debit card,, all though it is not a > > > >> credit card/ debit it is an ATM/debit card.. > > > >> ideal is very popular over here but it is a local dutch system > > > >> involving > > > >> dutch banks only very cool and safe.. > > > >> Allan > > > > >> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > > > >> wrote: > > > >>> Ahhh Allan, that may be the case for you, but it is not for me. I do > > > >>> have an ATM card, but it is not a debit card also. > > > > >>> On Aug 5, 7:49 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>>> Lee if you have that little card issued by the bank so you can get > > > >>>> your > > > >>>> cash out of a machine that is a debit card then you have one..and it > > > >>> limits > > > >>>> you to the cash you have on hand.. Personally I like the electronic > > > >>>> banking here in the Netherlands it and the banking system is very > > > >>>> excellent.. I personally have no credit cards either just do not > > > >>>> like > > > >>>> them.. My wife has one for emergencies but that is it. > > > >>>> Allan > > > > >>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected] > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>> Well Allan, > > > > >>>>> That is exatly the point. I have no credit or debit cards. I do it > > > >>>>> on porpouse, I do not wish to live beyond my means. I mean of > > > >>>>> course > > > >>>>> that if I have not the ready cash to pay for somthing, then I would > > > >>>>> rather go without it, than owe somebody money for it. > > > > >>>>> Yes this means that if I do not have the cash to pay for something > > > >>>>> then I go without it until I can afford to pay for it. But really > > > >>>>> this is the best thing for me. My will power is nil, I have a > > > >>>>> massivly addictive personality, so it is best for me to live this > > > >>>>> way, > > > >>>>> if I can't afford it, I will do without it, if I have the cash then > > > >>>>> I > > > >>>>> will have what I want. Credit, debit no no no, don't take a chance > > > >>>>> on > > > >>>>> me with that coz I will fuck you up. And of course by fucking you > > > >>>>> up, > > > >>>>> I'll fuck myself up. > > > > >>>>> No no no, it is easy. If I want something and I have not the cash > > > >>>>> to > > > >>>>> pay for it then I'll save until I do have the cash. Take something > > > >>>>> now and pay for it later! Are you fucking mad? I'll fucking knock > > > >>>>> ya > > > >>>>> mate, don't give me credit, it will get you and me in trouble. No > > > >>>>> no > > > >>>>> no, no cash no purchase. > > > > >>>>> This is the way I must live my life. > > > > >>>>> On Aug 4, 8:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>>>>> Lee to bad you don't live over here yu would just transfer the > > > >>>>>> money > > > >>> to > > > >>>>>> their bank account via a ATM or Debit card depending what you call > > > >>> it,, > > > >>>>>> then the send you the package or you pic it up. > > > >>>>>> no need to use a credit card electronic banking can be great.. > > > >>>>>> Allan > > > > >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Lee Douglas > > > >>>>>> <[email protected] > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> I don't e-bay myself Rigsy, I don't do credit and so have no > > > >>>>>>> cards. > > > > >>>>>>> As to the supper rich, what is the uses of keeping millions in the > > > >>>>>>> bank? I mean you can't spend it all before you die, you can't take > > > >>> it > > > >>>>>>> with you, so I guess you leave it to the kids, and then they still > > > >>>>>>> wont be able to spend it all, nor their kids. > > > > >>>>>>> Money simply does not 'trickle down', those who have vast ammounts > > > >>> of > > > >>>>>>> it do all they can to keep it, and I can see no logical reasons > > > >>>>>>> for > > > >>>>>>> doing so. Share the wealth, yes indeed. > > > > >>>>>>> Materialism, yes I guess you are right, although I hope not. I > > > >>> think > > > >>>>>>> whne the day comes when the whole world is fed and has a nice pile > > > >>> of > > > >>>>>>> stuff it may cease to be so important. Once again I must declare > > > >>>>>>> 'Robot Work Force' Yeah baby come on, I hope I see the day. > > > > >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 1:01 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> Have you checked out e-bay? Plus the super-rich have not changed > > > >>>>> their > > > >>>>>>>> desires/shopping patterns as far as I can tell. It will be > > > >>> difficult/ > > > >>>>>>>> impossible to inhibit materialism as it springs from insecurity > > > >>> or > > > >>>>>>>> hostility and is held as a positive value in a capitalist > > > >>> society. In > > > >>>>>>>> a sense, we "barter" cash for goods and services. > > > > >>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 9:47 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>> Indeed I am, I don't think bartering is a viable option. > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2:51 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>> You are talking about the super-rich. Money attracts thieves > > > >>> and > > > >>>>>>>>>> lawyers. Most want money to remain independent and "just > > > >>> enough" > > > >>>>> is > > > >>>>>>>>>> just fine. We could barter. > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 6:44 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > > > >>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Meh! It's all the same ole same ole innit . > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> It's greed plain and simple, I think how much money does > > > >>> one > > > >>>>> perosn > > > >>>>>>>>>>> need to libe as they wish. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Why do the extreamly rich do all they can to keep their > > > >>> money, > > > >>>>> I > > > >>>>>>> mean > > > >>>>>>>>>>> what are they going to do with it? > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Ultimatly we must find a better way, a replacement for > > > >>> material > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wealth, and get rid of the whole concept of money. How > > > >>> though > > > >>>>>>> ummmm? > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:43 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Rigsy,, boy are you a sensitive extreme conservative > > > >>>>> republican > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as president Rosevelt put it.. a conservative a person > > > >>> with > > > >>>>> two > > > >>>>>>> perfectly > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> good legs and refuses to walk... > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> all wealthy people have no right to live off the poor... > > > >>>>> they > > > >>>>>>> all > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> regardless of political view or party need to pay their > > > >>> share > > > >>>>> of > > > >>>>>>> taxes! > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> don't tell me that they create job because they don't. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as for people sending money to relatives.. you put a > > > >>> maximum > > > >>>>>>> that can be > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> sent tax free. say 5000 dollars. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Allan > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:09 PM, rigsy03 < > > > >>> [email protected]> > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Who would invest under your system? > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> What about the government reducing its expenditures by > > > >>> 35%? > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing's to stop wealthy Liberals/Democrats from > > > >>> sending > > > >>>>> their > > > >>>>>>> excess > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wealth to their government(s)-federal, state, local. > > > >>> Why > > > >>>>> don't > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> they? :-) > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Immigrants send money to their relatives also. I > > > >>> thought > > > >>>>> the > > > >>>>>>> world was > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> flat, at last! > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would people turn their labor/income over to a > > > >>> bloated/ > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> spendthrift/ incompetant government like > > > >>> robots/slaves? > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 2:31 am, allan deheretic < > > > >>> [email protected]> > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being american,, I think taxes are necessary but > > > >>> taxes > > > >>>>> need > > > >>>>>>> to be > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> dependent > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> income.. the greater the income the greater the > > > >>> taxes.. > > > >>>>> and > > > >>>>>>> removal of > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> all > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tax exemptions especially on capital gains..... > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am beginning to think that a petition needs to be > > > >>>>>>> circulated placing > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a mandatory 35% on income over $250,000.oo with no > > > >>>>>>> exemptions. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would go a long way to helping the relive the > > > >>>>> national > > > >>>>>>> debt.. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also think all nation should have a 35% tax on > > > >>> money > > > >>>>>>> leaving a nation.. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allan > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ) > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I_D- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -... > > read more »
