Not sure what country you live and bank in even the U S has ATM/debit cards. Because people do not know how to use them.. That is another story,, what I would suggest is go and talk to your banker about just everything your ATM card Allan
On 5 aug. 2011, at 14:58, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > Hehh as I say though, my ATM card allows me to do one thing and one > thing only, take money out the ATM. It is not a debit card at all. > > I have one bank account, and in reality it is the same old building > sociaty savings acount I had since I was a little kid. So no current > account, no credit or debit, no cheque book, I deal in cash and cash > only. > > On Aug 5, 1:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> you mean you do not buy your groceries using your ATM card? actually I >> know that you can take your ATM card and use it at the grocery or any other >> store for that matter that is how business is transacted either that or >> cash.. there is no such thing as checks.. >> your ATM card in reality is also a debit card,, all though it is not a >> credit card/ debit it is an ATM/debit card.. >> ideal is very popular over here but it is a local dutch system involving >> dutch banks only very cool and safe.. >> Allan >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Ahhh Allan, that may be the case for you, but it is not for me. I do >>> have an ATM card, but it is not a debit card also. >> >>> On Aug 5, 7:49 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Lee if you have that little card issued by the bank so you can get your >>>> cash out of a machine that is a debit card then you have one..and it >>> limits >>>> you to the cash you have on hand.. Personally I like the electronic >>>> banking here in the Netherlands it and the banking system is very >>>> excellent.. I personally have no credit cards either just do not like >>>> them.. My wife has one for emergencies but that is it. >>>> Allan >> >>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected] >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> Well Allan, >> >>>>> That is exatly the point. I have no credit or debit cards. I do it >>>>> on porpouse, I do not wish to live beyond my means. I mean of course >>>>> that if I have not the ready cash to pay for somthing, then I would >>>>> rather go without it, than owe somebody money for it. >> >>>>> Yes this means that if I do not have the cash to pay for something >>>>> then I go without it until I can afford to pay for it. But really >>>>> this is the best thing for me. My will power is nil, I have a >>>>> massivly addictive personality, so it is best for me to live this way, >>>>> if I can't afford it, I will do without it, if I have the cash then I >>>>> will have what I want. Credit, debit no no no, don't take a chance on >>>>> me with that coz I will fuck you up. And of course by fucking you up, >>>>> I'll fuck myself up. >> >>>>> No no no, it is easy. If I want something and I have not the cash to >>>>> pay for it then I'll save until I do have the cash. Take something >>>>> now and pay for it later! Are you fucking mad? I'll fucking knock ya >>>>> mate, don't give me credit, it will get you and me in trouble. No no >>>>> no, no cash no purchase. >> >>>>> This is the way I must live my life. >> >>>>> On Aug 4, 8:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Lee to bad you don't live over here yu would just transfer the money >>> to >>>>>> their bank account via a ATM or Debit card depending what you call >>> it,, >>>>>> then the send you the package or you pic it up. >>>>>> no need to use a credit card electronic banking can be great.. >>>>>> Allan >> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected] >> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> I don't e-bay myself Rigsy, I don't do credit and so have no cards. >> >>>>>>> As to the supper rich, what is the uses of keeping millions in the >>>>>>> bank? I mean you can't spend it all before you die, you can't take >>> it >>>>>>> with you, so I guess you leave it to the kids, and then they still >>>>>>> wont be able to spend it all, nor their kids. >> >>>>>>> Money simply does not 'trickle down', those who have vast ammounts >>> of >>>>>>> it do all they can to keep it, and I can see no logical reasons for >>>>>>> doing so. Share the wealth, yes indeed. >> >>>>>>> Materialism, yes I guess you are right, although I hope not. I >>> think >>>>>>> whne the day comes when the whole world is fed and has a nice pile >>> of >>>>>>> stuff it may cease to be so important. Once again I must declare >>>>>>> 'Robot Work Force' Yeah baby come on, I hope I see the day. >> >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 1:01 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Have you checked out e-bay? Plus the super-rich have not changed >>>>> their >>>>>>>> desires/shopping patterns as far as I can tell. It will be >>> difficult/ >>>>>>>> impossible to inhibit materialism as it springs from insecurity >>> or >>>>>>>> hostility and is held as a positive value in a capitalist >>> society. In >>>>>>>> a sense, we "barter" cash for goods and services. >> >>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 9:47 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> Indeed I am, I don't think bartering is a viable option. >> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2:51 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> You are talking about the super-rich. Money attracts thieves >>> and >>>>>>>>>> lawyers. Most want money to remain independent and "just >>> enough" >>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> just fine. We could barter. >> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 6:44 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> Meh! It's all the same ole same ole innit . >> >>>>>>>>>>> It's greed plain and simple, I think how much money does >>> one >>>>> perosn >>>>>>>>>>> need to libe as they wish. >> >>>>>>>>>>> Why do the extreamly rich do all they can to keep their >>> money, >>>>> I >>>>>>> mean >>>>>>>>>>> what are they going to do with it? >> >>>>>>>>>>> Ultimatly we must find a better way, a replacement for >>> material >>>>>>>>>>> wealth, and get rid of the whole concept of money. How >>> though >>>>>>> ummmm? >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:43 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Rigsy,, boy are you a sensitive extreme conservative >>>>> republican >>>>>>>>>>>> as president Rosevelt put it.. a conservative a person >>> with >>>>> two >>>>>>> perfectly >>>>>>>>>>>> good legs and refuses to walk... >> >>>>>>>>>>>> all wealthy people have no right to live off the poor... >>>>> they >>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>> regardless of political view or party need to pay their >>> share >>>>> of >>>>>>> taxes! >> >>>>>>>>>>>> don't tell me that they create job because they don't. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> as for people sending money to relatives.. you put a >>> maximum >>>>>>> that can be >>>>>>>>>>>> sent tax free. say 5000 dollars. >>>>>>>>>>>> Allan >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:09 PM, rigsy03 < >>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Who would invest under your system? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What about the government reducing its expenditures by >>> 35%? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing's to stop wealthy Liberals/Democrats from >>> sending >>>>> their >>>>>>> excess >>>>>>>>>>>>> wealth to their government(s)-federal, state, local. >>> Why >>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>>>> they? :-) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Immigrants send money to their relatives also. I >>> thought >>>>> the >>>>>>> world was >>>>>>>>>>>>> flat, at last! >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would people turn their labor/income over to a >>> bloated/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> spendthrift/ incompetant government like >>> robots/slaves? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 2:31 am, allan deheretic < >>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being american,, I think taxes are necessary but >>> taxes >>>>> need >>>>>>> to be >>>>>>>>>>>>> dependent >>>>>>>>>>>>>> income.. the greater the income the greater the >>> taxes.. >>>>> and >>>>>>> removal of >>>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tax exemptions especially on capital gains..... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am beginning to think that a petition needs to be >>>>>>> circulated placing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a mandatory 35% on income over $250,000.oo with no >>>>>>> exemptions. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would go a long way to helping the relive the >>>>> national >>>>>>> debt.. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also think all nation should have a 35% tax on >>> money >>>>>>> leaving a nation.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allan >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I_D Allan >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, >> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> ( >>>>>>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>>>>>> I_D Allan >> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >>>>>>>>>>>> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted >>> text >>>>> - >> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ( >>>>>> ) >>>>>> I_D Allan >> >>>>>> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >>>>>> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>> -- >>>> ( >>>> ) >>>> I_D Allan >> >>>> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >>>> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - >> >>>> - Show quoted text - >> >> -- >> ( >> ) >> I_D Allan >> >> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text -
