I, too, swear under duress! :-)
On Aug 10, 5:37 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > I really don't get you at times OM. > > I have made no demands apperant or otherwise.(indeed my morality would > not have me make demands) I speak as I will and expect everybody to > do the same, this is no demand from me, but me excersing my will. > > Yes some people do find vulgar language offensive, I truely do not > know why, I have simply never done so. I see no logics attached to to > it, it is a stance of reactive emotion. > > It is no bad thing also to fly agianst what you call morality in > general, but I guess you mean social mores et al. Indeed America had > a civil war because some decided to fly agianst such morality. > > Yes I do think that most people would rather be swore at then have > their property stolen or damaged, do you not think the same? > > The latter being not swearing on Google groups? Yes of course, there > are actions and consequenses. If I take the action of swearing here > the consequences is nobody see's my post. Elswhere though yes I will > swear with impunity, and damn if others choose to take offense or not. > > The latter being I will not rob or steal, yes indeed, I will not. > > Can you not see the differance though? > > If I throw out a f***k here or there some may be offended, but still > have their property intact. > > People are a strange lot, it constantly amazes me what some choose to > get upset about, but you know I never begrudge them their freedom to > do so, even if I do not always understand it. > > On Aug 9, 5:59 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > In short Lee, your apparent demand to be able to say words that offend > > others is a stance that flies against morality in general. Of course, > > we have had these discussions numerous times. You now seem to be > > claiming that people’s attachment to property is more important than > > people’s attachment to social niceties. You will comply with the > > former and not the latter. Yes, this is true subjectivity! > > > On Aug 9, 8:16 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Okay OM I'll play. > > > > Which examples have you for me of my compliantsey? > > > > Morality being wholey subjective indeed I find no immorality with my > > > use of what some would term vulgar language. > > > > My passions are of course neither blind and well thought out. > > > > Morality as I say is wholey subjective and so mine says I will not > > > take or destroy property that does not belong to me, yes I would call > > > that a moral stance would you not? > > > > On Aug 9, 4:06 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Let’s see…to not publically display vehement disregard for draconian > > > > policies, in effect being compliant and going along with institutions > > > > that are anti-human and against humanity is being ‘moral’. And, on the > > > > other hand, following one’s own blind ignorant passions and using > > > > language with impunity is being ‘moral’ too. I just don’t get it. > > > > > On Aug 9, 6:40 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Indeed, but my strong morality forbis that! > > > > > > On Aug 9, 12:34 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Or you could loot and rob which is the current sport. > > > > > > > On Aug 8, 6:35 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm in the UK Allen. But as I say this suits me, I don';t want > > > > > > > credit, I don't require deit either. I trust the cash I have in > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > hand and if I have not enough cash for a purchase, then I'll > > > > > > > saveup or > > > > > > > go without. > > > > > > > > On Aug 5, 8:55 pm, Allan Heretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Not sure what country you live and bank in even the U S has > > > > > > > > ATM/debit cards. Because people do not know how to use them.. > > > > > > > > That is another story,, what I would suggest is go and talk to > > > > > > > > your banker about just everything your ATM card > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > On 5 aug. 2011, at 14:58, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hehh as I say though, my ATM card allows me to do one thing > > > > > > > > > and one > > > > > > > > > thing only, take money out the ATM. It is not a debit card > > > > > > > > > at all. > > > > > > > > > > I have one bank account, and in reality it is the same old > > > > > > > > > building > > > > > > > > > sociaty savings acount I had since I was a little kid. So no > > > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > account, no credit or debit, no cheque book, I deal in cash > > > > > > > > > and cash > > > > > > > > > only. > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 5, 1:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> you mean you do not buy your groceries using your ATM card? > > > > > > > > >> actually I > > > > > > > > >> know that you can take your ATM card and use it at the > > > > > > > > >> grocery or any other > > > > > > > > >> store for that matter that is how business is transacted > > > > > > > > >> either that or > > > > > > > > >> cash.. there is no such thing as checks.. > > > > > > > > >> your ATM card in reality is also a debit card,, all though > > > > > > > > >> it is not a > > > > > > > > >> credit card/ debit it is an ATM/debit card.. > > > > > > > > >> ideal is very popular over here but it is a local dutch > > > > > > > > >> system involving > > > > > > > > >> dutch banks only very cool and safe.. > > > > > > > > >> Allan > > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Lee Douglas > > > > > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> Ahhh Allan, that may be the case for you, but it is not for > > > > > > > > >>> me. I do > > > > > > > > >>> have an ATM card, but it is not a debit card also. > > > > > > > > > >>> On Aug 5, 7:49 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>> Lee if you have that little card issued by the bank so > > > > > > > > >>>> you can get your > > > > > > > > >>>> cash out of a machine that is a debit card then you have > > > > > > > > >>>> one..and it > > > > > > > > >>> limits > > > > > > > > >>>> you to the cash you have on hand.. Personally I like the > > > > > > > > >>>> electronic > > > > > > > > >>>> banking here in the Netherlands it and the banking system > > > > > > > > >>>> is very > > > > > > > > >>>> excellent.. I personally have no credit cards either just > > > > > > > > >>>> do not like > > > > > > > > >>>> them.. My wife has one for emergencies but that is it. > > > > > > > > >>>> Allan > > > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Lee Douglas > > > > > > > > >>>> <[email protected] > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Well Allan, > > > > > > > > > >>>>> That is exatly the point. I have no credit or debit > > > > > > > > >>>>> cards. I do it > > > > > > > > >>>>> on porpouse, I do not wish to live beyond my means. I > > > > > > > > >>>>> mean of course > > > > > > > > >>>>> that if I have not the ready cash to pay for somthing, > > > > > > > > >>>>> then I would > > > > > > > > >>>>> rather go without it, than owe somebody money for it. > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Yes this means that if I do not have the cash to pay for > > > > > > > > >>>>> something > > > > > > > > >>>>> then I go without it until I can afford to pay for it. > > > > > > > > >>>>> But really > > > > > > > > >>>>> this is the best thing for me. My will power is nil, I > > > > > > > > >>>>> have a > > > > > > > > >>>>> massivly addictive personality, so it is best for me to > > > > > > > > >>>>> live this way, > > > > > > > > >>>>> if I can't afford it, I will do without it, if I have the > > > > > > > > >>>>> cash then I > > > > > > > > >>>>> will have what I want. Credit, debit no no no, don't > > > > > > > > >>>>> take a chance on > > > > > > > > >>>>> me with that coz I will fuck you up. And of course by > > > > > > > > >>>>> fucking you up, > > > > > > > > >>>>> I'll fuck myself up. > > > > > > > > > >>>>> No no no, it is easy. If I want something and I have not > > > > > > > > >>>>> the cash to > > > > > > > > >>>>> pay for it then I'll save until I do have the cash. Take > > > > > > > > >>>>> something > > > > > > > > >>>>> now and pay for it later! Are you fucking mad? I'll > > > > > > > > >>>>> fucking knock ya > > > > > > > > >>>>> mate, don't give me credit, it will get you and me in > > > > > > > > >>>>> trouble. No no > > > > > > > > >>>>> no, no cash no purchase. > > > > > > > > > >>>>> This is the way I must live my life. > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Aug 4, 8:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Lee to bad you don't live over here yu would just > > > > > > > > >>>>>> transfer the money > > > > > > > > >>> to > > > > > > > > >>>>>> their bank account via a ATM or Debit card depending > > > > > > > > >>>>>> what you call > > > > > > > > >>> it,, > > > > > > > > >>>>>> then the send you the package or you pic it up. > > > > > > > > >>>>>> no need to use a credit card electronic banking can be > > > > > > > > >>>>>> great.. > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Allan > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Lee Douglas > > > > > > > > >>>>>> <[email protected] > > > > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I don't e-bay myself Rigsy, I don't do credit and so > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> have no cards. > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> As to the supper rich, what is the uses of keeping > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> millions in the > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> bank? I mean you can't spend it all before you die, you > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> can't take > > > > > > > > >>> it > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> with you, so I guess you leave it to the kids, and then > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> they still > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wont be able to spend it all, nor their kids. > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Money simply does not 'trickle down', those who have > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> vast ammounts > > > > > > > > >>> of > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> it do all they can to keep it, and I can see no logical > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> reasons for > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> doing so. Share the wealth, yes indeed. > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Materialism, yes I guess you are right, although I > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> hope not. I > > > > > > > > >>> think > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> whne the day comes when the whole world is fed and has > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> a nice pile > > > > > > > > >>> of > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> stuff it may cease to be so important. Once again I > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> must declare > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> 'Robot Work Force' Yeah baby come on, I hope I see the > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> day. > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 1:01 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Have you checked out e-bay? Plus the super-rich have > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> not changed > > > > > > > > >>>>> their > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> desires/shopping patterns as far as I can tell. It > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> will be > > > > > > > > >>> difficult/ > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> impossible to inhibit materialism as it springs from > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> insecurity > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
