It's in the work of Michel Foucault and others. In essence I suppose its the creation of docile bodies and govern-mentality through propaganda and ADMASS culture - so people think voting occasionally in elections with no real choice is important. One of the books was called 'Governing The Soul' (Nikolas Rose).
On 6 Jan, 10:23, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Neil , what is ' docile body production ? Would you care to elaborate ? > > > >in election > > > > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:40 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > If what you are saying Pol wasn't true there would be no advertising. > > What might be more important than free will questions are those on > > resisting govern-mentality and docile body production. I am more > > interested in how we might stop mass manipulation in order more might > > be free in action. > > > The correct salute, if I was too patronising Allan is two-fingered. > > > On 3 Jan, 18:14, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Does it matter if we are free..or if we are not... philosophically i > >> mean... i think its significant the level of importance we are willing to > >> allow to the unconscious affecting the conscious... things affect people > >> differently... so isnt it kinda predetermined..the effect some externality > >> will have on someone... like saying i wish i was like so and so... then you > >> wouldn't be you..you would be that person... theres no point made here cos > >> im just thinking out loud..in text.. ;) ... > > >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:42 PM, andrew vecsey > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> > If it was all so simple, my attempts to simplify everything would not be > >> > so much fun. Man is a very complex being made up of both conscious and > >> > unconscious aspects that give him both freedoms and limitations. That is > >> > the reason we should try to avoid judging other people. Our unconscious > >> > intuitions come from external sources, but we are free to listen and obey > >> > them and free to refuse to believe them. Our freedom lies in choosing the > >> > many choices we are continuously confronted with. And we decide using our > >> > free will - our desire. You can`t always get what you want, but in the > >> > end > >> > you will always get what you need. Psychologists are scientists and what > >> > scientists say should be taken with a grain of salt. Like all of us, > >> > they > >> > are free to beleive anything they want to believe. And like all of us, > >> > they > >> > are free to change their mind when ever they want to. > > >> > On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 6:31:28 PM UTC+1, RP Singh wrote: > > >> >> Psychologists say that a person's conscious motives are not the real > >> >> determinants of behavior but one's real motives lie in the unconscious > >> >> and > >> >> one is not aware of them. A person who is obsessed with cleanliness is > >> >> ostensibly a very clean person but in reality he has strong instinctive > >> >> sex > >> >> drive which get repressed as he cannot accept them. > >> >> The question is that are we to judge ourselves or judged by others for > >> >> our behavior by the conscious motives or the repressed unconscious > >> >> motives > >> >> ? Clearly we cannot be judged for factors of which we are not even aware > >> >> even though they are the real determinants of our actions. > >> >> The question now arises of our will , is our will free ? Consciously we > >> >> are free , we think and act as we want , we can open or close our hand > >> >> freely. So , we have freedom of choice , and if our will is bound by > >> >> unconscious determinants we cannot be held accountable for them. If > >> >> unconsciously we are selfish and consciously generous , it is our > >> >> generosity for which we can be judged and not the unconscious motive. > >> >> So , > >> >> the phantom of Bondage evaporates into thin air ! > > >> > -- > > >> -- > >> EverComing > > > -- -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
