Ha-ha, Allan, that reminds me when Noah was still young and came up with the 'not bad' qualifier. I made him solve some simple arithmetic problem and then asked him, if he was able to come up with a positive qualifier now. Coming to think of it, this might be seen as rather manipulative.
2013/2/18 Allan H <[email protected]> > That might not be a bad idea Neil > > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 7:19 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have come to the conclusion that yes, it is time you got your novel > out. > > Out to a wider audience than us. It has been very selfish of us to keep > you > > occupied for our little ahs and buts. Due to your persistent training of > our > > immune system I can say that I don't automatically feel sick anymore when > > hearing of banksters, economists, police, military, and politicians. > Thank > > you Neil! > > > > > > 2013/2/16 archytas <[email protected]> > >> > >> I was OK with the university scene until 1995/6 - that's when fees > >> came in and we started recruiting masses of foreign students and > >> dropped real entry qualifications more or less to ability to mist the > >> mirror. It would be OK if the qualifications and experience really > >> did something for most students, but for most it means debt problems > >> and most would benefit lot more doing a degree at 25 +. The key > >> stats are that the only students who really benefit financially are > >> already from well-off families and the lack of really skilled jobs in > >> the economy. We could have moved to a model much more involved with > >> industry, but instead the way funding worked made it impossible to > >> keep up he work we already did in that area - really good work project > >> based qualifications were replaced by classroom taught programmes. I > >> obtained several million in research/project funding but saw most of > >> it wasted. At least in this new line of work no one gets stuck with > >> the debt bill. I have to requalify as my assessor certificate has > >> lapsed - I'm half-way through and pretty dreadful! Even on this > >> course I've noticed about half my fellow students have been taken on > >> without enough experience to get assessing jobs. I've already been > >> offered work and once I'm up and running Sue will do the course - the > >> thinking is that we would be able to do a day a week each after we > >> retire to fund some travelling. > >> It's not teaching that proved the problem for me Allan - more the > >> difficulty in doing what was right for students - I'd be quite happy > >> doing lab work with some. Thanks for the kind words Molly - if I'm > >> honest what I'd really like a crack at would be the banksters and > >> crooked politicians. Rigs has me right in this respect. I must tidy > >> up the novel so I can send you guys a copy. > >> > >> On Feb 11, 12:49 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > There is a much to be admired in your willingness to let go of the > >> > seeming crap and move into opportunities that seem to have more > >> > value. I use the word seem because, for me, it is always a leap of > >> > faith and I am rarely sure. Your recognition of the opportunities > >> > around you is also encouraging. I am with rigs, I doubt if your days > >> > will ever be uninteresting. You do seem to find it. > >> > > >> > On Feb 10, 7:11 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > I'm doing the assignments for my assessor certificate this week > (mine > >> > > lapsed)- the course is hopeless but I need the ticket. The purpose > is > >> > > to get work I feel is less of a rip-off than university teaching. > We > >> > > muddle along! > >> > > >> > > On Feb 10, 9:12 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > > Agreed. > >> > > >> > > > On Febng1:29 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > > > I have noticed, over the years, that much 'purpose' is something > >> > > > > else > >> > > > > - seemingly fabricated - as in mission statements as bad as > higher > >> > > > > education institutions 'being about' providing high quality > >> > > > > educational experiences - something one could hardly think of as > >> > > > > differentiating one from another. In practice we seem to be > >> > > > > limited > >> > > > > to making the same old mistakes with statements of purpose > >> > > > > connected > >> > > > > with fantasy. We might do better to think more in terms of > >> > > > > structuring opportunities to nurture each other. > >> > > >> > > > > On 10 Feb, 15:30, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > > > > I think purpose is relevant to us, until it is not, like cause > >> > > > > > and > >> > > > > > effect is important until, it is not. > >> > > >> > > > > > On Feb 9, 10:42 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > > > > > That seems about right ID10. The world is perspectival - > all > >> > > > > > > sorts of > >> > > > > > > stuff is justified from this perspective and that - many > >> > > > > > > societies > >> > > > > > > have lived with slavery justified and so on. All of us are > >> > > > > > > brought up > >> > > > > > > to believe one parochial set of beliefs or another. There > >> > > > > > > seems to > >> > > > > > > have been a time before human perspective. I think science > >> > > > > > > has more > >> > > > > > > or less told us our purpose is to develop technology to > leave > >> > > > > > > the > >> > > > > > > planet - but this is purpose limited by assumptions it's > >> > > > > > > better to > >> > > > > > > survive than not. It leaves open wider questions of purpose > >> > > > > > > that we > >> > > > > > > might gather along the way or give up on. I'm not keen on > >> > > > > > > purpose > >> > > > > > > gained from religious faith or faith in one's country - we > all > >> > > > > > > turn > >> > > > > > > out to have lots to be ashamed of in these respects. I'm > >> > > > > > > fairly sure > >> > > > > > > no that human purpose is now largely irrelevant and our > future > >> > > > > > > lies in > >> > > > > > > machine life. > >> > > > > > > . > >> > > >> > > > > > > On Feb 9, 11:31 am, "[email protected]" > >> > > >> > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > Does the concept of purpose apply to species lower than > >> > > > > > > > humans or only to humans? If it does apply then at what > level does it stop, > >> > > > > > > > sheep, fish, plans? And in case it stops at some level or > ronly applies to > >> > > > > > > > humans is this definition based on the species having a > spirit or a soul as > >> > > > > > > > some body may suggest, or is it based on having a certain > level of > >> > > > > > > > consciousness? If it's based on the concept of a spirit > or a soul then it's > >> > > > > > > > a matter of metaphysics and faith. If it's based on > consciousness and we are > >> > > > > > > > talking in terms of the physical universe in which we > live, then by > >> > > > > > > > definition purpose would be an invention of the human > mind and it would be a > >> > > > > > > > matter of definition and how we view the world and view > ourselves in it but > >> > > > > > > > it would be anything but a universal metaphysical thing > on which we all > >> > > > > > > > could agree especially that it would look entirely > different in the eyes of > >> > > > > > > > a more advanced species than our selves. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> --- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> ""Minds Eye"" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >> email to [email protected]. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> > >> > > > > -- > > > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [email protected]. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > Of course I talk to myself, > Sometimes I need expert advice.. > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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