There is a much to be admired in your willingness to let go of the
seeming crap and move into opportunities that seem to have more
value.  I use the word seem because, for me, it is always a leap of
faith and I am rarely sure.  Your recognition of the opportunities
around you is also encouraging.  I am with rigs, I doubt if your days
will ever be uninteresting.  You do seem to find it.

On Feb 10, 7:11 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm doing the assignments for my assessor certificate this week (mine
> lapsed)- the course is hopeless but I need the ticket.  The purpose is
> to get work I feel is less of a rip-off than university teaching.  We
> muddle along!
>
> On Feb 10, 9:12 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
> > Agreed.
>
> > On Febng1:29 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I have noticed, over the years, that much 'purpose' is something else
> > > - seemingly fabricated - as in mission statements as bad as higher
> > > education institutions 'being about' providing high quality
> > > educational experiences - something one could hardly think of as
> > > differentiating one from another.  In practice we seem to be limited
> > > to making the same old mistakes with statements of purpose connected
> > > with fantasy.  We might do better to think more in terms of
> > > structuring opportunities to nurture each other.
>
> > > On 10 Feb, 15:30, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I think purpose is relevant to us, until it is not, like cause and
> > > > effect is important until, it is not.
>
> > > > On Feb 9, 10:42 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > That seems about right ID10.  The world is perspectival - all sorts of
> > > > > stuff is justified from this perspective and that - many societies
> > > > > have lived with slavery justified and so on.  All of us are brought up
> > > > > to believe one parochial set of beliefs or another.  There seems to
> > > > > have been a time before human perspective.  I think science has more
> > > > > or less told us our purpose is to develop technology to leave the
> > > > > planet - but this is purpose limited by assumptions it's better to
> > > > > survive than not.  It leaves open wider questions of purpose that we
> > > > > might gather along the way or give up on.  I'm not keen on purpose
> > > > > gained from religious faith or faith in one's country - we all turn
> > > > > out to have lots to be ashamed of in these respects.  I'm fairly sure
> > > > > no that human purpose is now largely irrelevant and our future lies in
> > > > > machine life.
> > > > > .
>
> > > > > On Feb 9, 11:31 am, "[email protected]"
>
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > Does the concept of purpose apply to species lower than humans or 
> > > > > > only to humans? If it does apply then at what level does it stop, 
> > > > > > sheep, fish, plans? And in case it stops at some level or ronly 
> > > > > > applies to humans is this definition based on the species having a 
> > > > > > spirit or a soul as some body may suggest, or is it based on having 
> > > > > > a certain level of consciousness? If it's based on the concept of a 
> > > > > > spirit or a soul then it's a matter of metaphysics and faith. If 
> > > > > > it's based on consciousness and we are talking in terms of the 
> > > > > > physical universe in which we live, then by definition purpose 
> > > > > > would be an invention of the human mind and it would be a matter of 
> > > > > > definition and how we view the world and view ourselves in it but 
> > > > > > it would be anything but a universal metaphysical thing on which we 
> > > > > > all could agree especially that it would look entirely different in 
> > > > > > the eyes of a more advanced species than our selves.

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