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On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:11 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm doing the assignments for my assessor certificate this week (mine > lapsed)- the course is hopeless but I need the ticket. The purpose is > to get work I feel is less of a rip-off than university teaching. We > muddle along! > > On Feb 10, 9:12 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: >> Agreed. >> >> On Febng1:29 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I have noticed, over the years, that much 'purpose' is something else >> > - seemingly fabricated - as in mission statements as bad as higher >> > education institutions 'being about' providing high quality >> > educational experiences - something one could hardly think of as >> > differentiating one from another. In practice we seem to be limited >> > to making the same old mistakes with statements of purpose connected >> > with fantasy. We might do better to think more in terms of >> > structuring opportunities to nurture each other. >> >> > On 10 Feb, 15:30, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > I think purpose is relevant to us, until it is not, like cause and >> > > effect is important until, it is not. >> >> > > On Feb 9, 10:42 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > That seems about right ID10. The world is perspectival - all sorts of >> > > > stuff is justified from this perspective and that - many societies >> > > > have lived with slavery justified and so on. All of us are brought up >> > > > to believe one parochial set of beliefs or another. There seems to >> > > > have been a time before human perspective. I think science has more >> > > > or less told us our purpose is to develop technology to leave the >> > > > planet - but this is purpose limited by assumptions it's better to >> > > > survive than not. It leaves open wider questions of purpose that we >> > > > might gather along the way or give up on. I'm not keen on purpose >> > > > gained from religious faith or faith in one's country - we all turn >> > > > out to have lots to be ashamed of in these respects. I'm fairly sure >> > > > no that human purpose is now largely irrelevant and our future lies in >> > > > machine life. >> > > > . >> >> > > > On Feb 9, 11:31 am, "[email protected]" >> >> > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > Does the concept of purpose apply to species lower than humans or >> > > > > only to humans? If it does apply then at what level does it stop, >> > > > > sheep, fish, plans? And in case it stops at some level or ronly >> > > > > applies to humans is this definition based on the species having a >> > > > > spirit or a soul as some body may suggest, or is it based on having >> > > > > a certain level of consciousness? If it's based on the concept of a >> > > > > spirit or a soul then it's a matter of metaphysics and faith. If >> > > > > it's based on consciousness and we are talking in terms of the >> > > > > physical universe in which we live, then by definition purpose would >> > > > > be an invention of the human mind and it would be a matter of >> > > > > definition and how we view the world and view ourselves in it but it >> > > > > would be anything but a universal metaphysical thing on which we all >> > > > > could agree especially that it would look entirely different in the >> > > > > eyes of a more advanced species than our selves. > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. Of course I talk to myself, Sometimes I need expert advice.. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
