You're taking a big risk putting Descartes before the whores.

Sorry, any opportunity to use that punchline...

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:02 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:

> We have come a long way from Descartes, whose ‘I think therefore I am’ was
> a hallmark breakthrough in the celebration of human consciousness and
> human-centred history making. Today’s cogito ergo sum equivalent would read
> more like this: ‘I think I exist, or at least there’s an app that proves I
> exist because it generates data which can be analysed and presented back to
> me so I can make more sense of my life.’
>
> I'm not worried by AI yet - more that we don't use enough of it.  Machines
> can feedback into what we are and improve it.  We have some limited
> software that does biofeedback involved in attempts to let children better
> see their own poor behaviour and help them correct it.  Much we could do
> with machines is prevented by economic interests.
>
>
> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 2:27:26 PM UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>>
>> It could be that AI robots might have consciousness like us , if they are
>> recognizing objects , seeing , hearing , etc. then probably they are aware
>> and as such have a consciousness like us. After all aren't we all
>> automatons following our biological guidance , seemingly free but bound by
>> hundreds of forces within and outside our bodies. What if robots are given
>> the creative urge , then might not it be the enslavement of humankind like
>> in comics when we were kids. Neil , I think Hawking and Gates might be
>> genuinely worried about the future AI's and the subjugation of humankind.
>> Sometimes it is good to believe in God because we can always hope that he
>> will protect the creatures he has created from their own folly in playing
>> God.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:37 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> It could even be RP that some disaster in, say, 50 years, which a little
>>> change now might help us avert, brings the end of humans.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 12:57:09 PM UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What would be there if there were no laws of nature --mayhem everywhere
>>>> , chaos , destruction , anarchy. What if all laws fail ,annihilation--and
>>>> it might be that the universe will end that way.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:35 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Suppose there had been no consciousness and the entire world had been
>>>>> there but all unconscious , what would be the Truth? Just death , nothing
>>>>> else. Consciousness is what makes life , a proof that there is something
>>>>> which exists , Existence itself and not death. Look at the stars , the
>>>>> solar system , if it had self-direction where would we be? It all obeys
>>>>> laws and that is the reason for order in the universe and not chaos. What
>>>>> would humanity have been if we were not bound by our nature , no laws of
>>>>> biology , psychology , etc. , no predictability , no comfort that we would
>>>>> return to our homes at night ,no assurance that we would return home from
>>>>> work . Unpredictability is still there but it is minor , mostly there is
>>>>> satisfaction and assurance of well-being.
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