That is the question pol. I have faith that lead carbonate will turn yellow at 78 degrees, at least in Earth laboratories. Spent today cleaning up after my grandson - little faith in him and considering a ban. I take people as they come. Not so much about faith in them as hoping they may have common interests - fairly rare for me. Thee seem to be things to hope for requiring faith. Most people expressing faith seem to be doing something else to me, in the religious sense.
The big one for me is faith in social systems' claims on what they are really doing and can do. That looks bleak. On Monday, 23 February 2015 20:15:52 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: > > Interesting questions Polly, I think the faith we are discussing is > generically classified as a power greater than we are. > > Faith in others. That is an interesting l)question.. Personally I try > give people the benefit of trust. Until that trust is broken.. A lot of > people don't care if they are dishonest toward others. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: polly skid <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 8:46 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: The religious atheist > > Faith in what?? I know you mean Faith faith, but, speaking of faith.. Why > do you think it's tough to have faith in other people... > On Feb 23, 2015 11:30 PM, "archytas" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> We might ask at what point faith is so obviously delusional as to give it >> up and whether faith can be given up? Obviously, religions can be given up >> at the drop of a conqueror's hat, despite all previous professions of >> faith. So do we overdo faith as an internal matter? Without the external >> misery, scarcity and so on, would there be much need-demand for inner >> self-development offered as peaceful light at the end of the tunnel in >> better external environments? >> >> I don't find people working much on inner integrity and much more on >> image management and backing down to the chief barker. >> >> On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 5:03:43 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >>> >>> Reminds me a bit of trying to do a Rubik's cube my nephews had rendered >>> impossible by peeling labels off to 'complete' it. We had a debate today >>> with our current Chancellor of five years being blamed for doing nothing on >>> tax evasion-avoidance and in turn blaming his predecessor for doing nothing >>> five years ago. Clear proof of just how useless our system is and an >>> argument rather like Tony's shape and lack of colour here. I suspect a >>> diversion of our faith to the kind of contentment we strive to achieve in >>> domestic herds. >>> >>> On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 4:23:35 PM UTC, facilitator wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Faith-Reason" >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Xx9F9Qa-ITY/VOtT054sq-I/AAAAAAAAAGQ/O8A_bI5JvW0/s1600/Faith%2B%2BReason.jpg> >>>> "Contentment comes at a very high price, anxiety and fear are often >>>> sold to secure the debt" (™) >>>> >>>> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
