We might ask at what point faith is so obviously delusional as to give it 
up and whether faith can be given up?  Obviously, religions can be given up 
at the drop of a conqueror's hat, despite all previous professions of 
faith.  So do we overdo faith as an internal matter?  Without the external 
misery, scarcity and so on, would there be much need-demand for inner 
self-development offered as peaceful light at the end of the tunnel in 
better external environments?

I don't find people working much on inner integrity and much more on image 
management and backing down to the chief barker.

On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 5:03:43 PM UTC, archytas wrote:
>
> Reminds me a bit of trying to do a Rubik's cube my nephews had rendered 
> impossible by peeling labels off to 'complete' it.  We had a debate today 
> with our current Chancellor of five years being blamed for doing nothing on 
> tax evasion-avoidance and in turn blaming his predecessor for doing nothing 
> five years ago.  Clear proof of just how useless our system is and an 
> argument rather like Tony's shape and lack of colour here.  I suspect a 
> diversion of our faith to the kind of contentment we strive to achieve in 
> domestic herds.
>
> On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 4:23:35 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Faith-Reason"
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Xx9F9Qa-ITY/VOtT054sq-I/AAAAAAAAAGQ/O8A_bI5JvW0/s1600/Faith%2B%2BReason.jpg>
>> "Contentment comes at a very high price, anxiety and fear are often sold 
>> to secure the debt"  (™)
>>
>>

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