Religions are closely linked with the treatment of others, including strangers.
On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 9:31:57 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: > > Faith in the social system? > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 10:29 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: The religious atheist > > That is the question pol. I have faith that lead carbonate will turn > yellow at 78 degrees, at least in Earth laboratories. Spent today cleaning > up after my grandson - little faith in him and considering a ban. I take > people as they come. Not so much about faith in them as hoping they may > have common interests - fairly rare for me. Thee seem to be things to hope > for requiring faith. Most people expressing faith seem to be doing > something else to me, in the religious sense. > > The big one for me is faith in social systems' claims on what they are > really doing and can do. That looks bleak. > > On Monday, 23 February 2015 20:15:52 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> Interesting questions Polly, I think the faith we are discussing is >> generically classified as a power greater than we are. >> >> Faith in others. That is an interesting l)question.. Personally I try >> give people the benefit of trust. Until that trust is broken.. A lot of >> people don't care if they are dishonest toward others. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: polly skid <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 8:46 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: The religious atheist >> >> Faith in what?? I know you mean Faith faith, but, speaking of faith.. Why >> do you think it's tough to have faith in other people... >> On Feb 23, 2015 11:30 PM, "archytas" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> We might ask at what point faith is so obviously delusional as to give >>> it up and whether faith can be given up? Obviously, religions can be given >>> up at the drop of a conqueror's hat, despite all previous professions of >>> faith. So do we overdo faith as an internal matter? Without the external >>> misery, scarcity and so on, would there be much need-demand for inner >>> self-development offered as peaceful light at the end of the tunnel in >>> better external environments? >>> >>> I don't find people working much on inner integrity and much more on >>> image management and backing down to the chief barker. >>> >>> On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 5:03:43 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >>>> >>>> Reminds me a bit of trying to do a Rubik's cube my nephews had rendered >>>> impossible by peeling labels off to 'complete' it. We had a debate today >>>> with our current Chancellor of five years being blamed for doing nothing >>>> on >>>> tax evasion-avoidance and in turn blaming his predecessor for doing >>>> nothing >>>> five years ago. Clear proof of just how useless our system is and an >>>> argument rather like Tony's shape and lack of colour here. I suspect a >>>> diversion of our faith to the kind of contentment we strive to achieve in >>>> domestic herds. >>>> >>>> On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 4:23:35 PM UTC, facilitator wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Faith-Reason" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Xx9F9Qa-ITY/VOtT054sq-I/AAAAAAAAAGQ/O8A_bI5JvW0/s1600/Faith%2B%2BReason.jpg> >>>>> "Contentment comes at a very high price, anxiety and fear are often >>>>> sold to secure the debt" (™) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
