Interesting  questions Polly, I think the faith we are discussing  is 
generically  classified as a power greater than we are. 

Faith in others. That is an interesting  l)question..  Personally  I try give 
people the benefit of trust. Until that trust is broken.. A lot of people don't 
 care if they are dishonest toward others. 

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: polly skid <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: The religious atheist

Faith in what?? I know you mean Faith faith, but, speaking of faith.. Why
do you think it's tough to have faith in other people...
On Feb 23, 2015 11:30 PM, "archytas" <[email protected]> wrote:

> We might ask at what point faith is so obviously delusional as to give it
> up and whether faith can be given up?  Obviously, religions can be given up
> at the drop of a conqueror's hat, despite all previous professions of
> faith.  So do we overdo faith as an internal matter?  Without the external
> misery, scarcity and so on, would there be much need-demand for inner
> self-development offered as peaceful light at the end of the tunnel in
> better external environments?
>
> I don't find people working much on inner integrity and much more on image
> management and backing down to the chief barker.
>
> On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 5:03:43 PM UTC, archytas wrote:
>>
>> Reminds me a bit of trying to do a Rubik's cube my nephews had rendered
>> impossible by peeling labels off to 'complete' it.  We had a debate today
>> with our current Chancellor of five years being blamed for doing nothing on
>> tax evasion-avoidance and in turn blaming his predecessor for doing nothing
>> five years ago.  Clear proof of just how useless our system is and an
>> argument rather like Tony's shape and lack of colour here.  I suspect a
>> diversion of our faith to the kind of contentment we strive to achieve in
>> domestic herds.
>>
>> On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 4:23:35 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Faith-Reason"
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Xx9F9Qa-ITY/VOtT054sq-I/AAAAAAAAAGQ/O8A_bI5JvW0/s1600/Faith%2B%2BReason.jpg>
>>> "Contentment comes at a very high price, anxiety and fear are often sold
>>> to secure the debt"  ((tm))
>>>
>>>  --
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