If you had read the post to which I had answered You would have known what I meant. The issue was that India is a backward country and are prejudiced against women, I am just pointing out that such a progressive country like america does not treat its women as equal to men, they don't give equal salary or benefits to women. So please stop harping about India and talk about inequality in the world, discrimination in the world, exploitation of women in the world. Make it a global issue and not an issue about India.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:03 PM, 'facilitator' via "Minds Eye" < [email protected]> wrote: > What the hell does the US having a woman president have to do with rape? > We haven't had an oriental president either. Hell, we haven't even had a > black president yet. > > On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 10:03:56 AM UTC-5, RP Singh wrote: >> >> There has been rampant dowry harassment of many young brides by the >> in-laws, but the greatest harassment has mostly been done by the >> mother-in-law. Women are actually the women's greatest enemies. America has >> 50% women population and in their long history they are yet to have a woman >> president. Are women actually sleeping or maybe somewhere they think that >> men would make better leaders. >> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> A very sad case indeed, Pol. There is much there to invoke outrage. And >>> RP's crack about women being the worst enemy for women has the tone of >>> these rapists flinging insults about the victim. But I cannot say I agree >>> that the film looks to be someone preying on the victim to get their own 5 >>> minutes of fame. Looks as if the film makers took a tough stand to try to >>> bring attention to the problem. And the problem looks to be, at least in >>> part, that blaming the victim is so accepted in all parts of culture that >>> we don't even recognize it when we see it, or sometimes say it. I can feel >>> deep compassion for the mother when she says that she can't be hurt worse >>> by their words after her daughter died in her arms after their violent >>> actions. How do we bring attention to the atrocity of cultural acceptance >>> of not only this kind of violence but the gender inequity that perpetuates >>> it? >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 8:59:06 AM UTC-5, pol.science kid wrote: >>>> >>>> http://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/i-wish-judicia >>>> ry-govt-did-more-than-just-ban-a-film/ >>>> On Mar 5, 2015 4:44 PM, "RP Singh" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That documentary has been banned and I don't read banned stuff because >>>>> it is mostly prejudiced and sensational. The maker is simply creating a >>>>> storm to make money. When that incident happened everyone was shocked, and >>>>> by raising that subject again by talking to a perpetrator of the crime >>>>> what >>>>> did the producer want? If he was really concerned he should have talked to >>>>> people on the road and not a savage who had no concern for others but only >>>>> blaming the victim. Everyone needs protection, I as well. It is society >>>>> through the government that provides protection against criminals and >>>>> scoundrels. There are other type of savages who loot all your money and >>>>> put >>>>> you on the road, there are savages in uniform who implicate you in >>>>> criminal >>>>> cases, everyone needs protection and you are not unique in that. You can >>>>> make India a better place to live in, just why don't you try to do that? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:19 PM, polly skid <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Don't use animals and rapists synonymously. What is your point when >>>>>> you say women in other places are vulnerable? Its quite obvious.. We all >>>>>> live in this world and are aware of what happens in other places too.. >>>>>> The >>>>>> point of reference is the documentary and Delhi. Maybe extending it to >>>>>> other parts of India. Nobody ever said only Indian men rape. I don't know >>>>>> who you are defending 'india' against... When you say 'you are not unique >>>>>> 'in demanding protection.. Are you talking to me(when did i demand >>>>>> protection;when i said delhi is unsafe??) , or do you mean all womankind >>>>>> when you say 'you are not unique in demanding protection'? As far as i >>>>>> gather Udwin is saying through the documentary that most men in india >>>>>> are >>>>>> not raised to respect women as equals and that's a contributing factor in >>>>>> increased rapes, hardly about controlling some random 'savages' out to >>>>>> get >>>>>> women and children. Maybe you should actually watch the documentary. >>>>>> Might >>>>>> help bring some perspective. >>>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 4:03 PM, "RP Singh" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Such instances happen everywhere in the world. There are streets in >>>>>>> New York where you cannot move about. Girls are, and yes even children >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> forcefully put into prostitution and are drugged and made to do things >>>>>>> which go against civilization. Are they being done by Indians only? >>>>>>> Everyone needs protection from the animals and savages among us, and you >>>>>>> are not unique in that. Western countries might be better in some sense, >>>>>>> but we are in others. If you are talking about Delhi, you are doing so >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> if it was crawling with monsters, but there are monsters everywhere. In >>>>>>> developed countries they have better systems of control, and as we >>>>>>> progress >>>>>>> we will learn to control the animals here as well. >>>>>>> I have just read Archytas and he has given a good explanation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:14 PM, polly skid <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Leave Delhi.. Remember the UP village case where two teenage >>>>>>>> sisters were raped and hanged from a tree? Already forgotten by most >>>>>>>> people. >>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 3:12 PM, "polly skid" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why should i need protection if i wear western attire..?and by >>>>>>>>> that logic wearing 'indian attire' doesnt call for 'protection'..if >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> wear it ? Comparing India with Taliban aint a very great idea. We are >>>>>>>>> moving forward(in time) because thats what people do/countries do.. >>>>>>>>> Plus >>>>>>>>> who is criticizing 'india' dude...?? I dont get the point of getting >>>>>>>>> masses >>>>>>>>> and democracy. It's a fact that if youre a woman in Delhi youre quite >>>>>>>>> unsafe. One cant even call any cab or board any bus.. The problems of >>>>>>>>> course go much further than anything that is written here. Arguing >>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>> the 'greatness' of india's heritage, democracy , culture doesnt do >>>>>>>>> shit.... >>>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 2:35 PM, "RP Singh" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you are wearing western attire and moving about the streets of >>>>>>>>>> Delhi who protects you, it is the people of India. India is a >>>>>>>>>> democracy and >>>>>>>>>> the government can function only if they are chosen by the people. >>>>>>>>>> Whatever >>>>>>>>>> politicians might be they know that they are answerable to the >>>>>>>>>> people and >>>>>>>>>> are ruling with peoples' mandate. Day by day we are moving forward, >>>>>>>>>> are we >>>>>>>>>> doing so by subjugating the masses? Our former Prime Minister Indira >>>>>>>>>> Gandhi >>>>>>>>>> tried to play the despot and lost the next election, she learned the >>>>>>>>>> lesson >>>>>>>>>> and corrected herself. Polly Taliban does not exist here , some >>>>>>>>>> people are >>>>>>>>>> trying to do that in the name of culture and are unsuccessful. Do the >>>>>>>>>> majority in India want fundamentalism, surely not! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 1:12 PM, polly skid <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry.. I don't mean the word tolerant.. what are 'they' >>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be 'tolerant' of anyways.. That females exist and move >>>>>>>>>>> about by >>>>>>>>>>> will?? ... >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 12:52 PM, "polly skid" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hate to say this RP.. But majority of people are NOT >>>>>>>>>>>> tolerant... An hour into the streets of most areas of Delhi or >>>>>>>>>>>> even most >>>>>>>>>>>> parts of north india would make it clear... Maybe you stay in >>>>>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>>>>> parts... >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 11:41 AM, "'facilitator' via "Minds Eye < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's encouraging RP. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 12:30:56 AM UTC-5, RP Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not the majority view, but that of deranged, uneducated >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fundamentalists. Such people are always doing something evil >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> name of culture, what do such people know of culture. We have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>> heritage of giving respect to women if we look in not so >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ancient India, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when muslim raiders came from the west and stole women a little >>>>>>>>>>>>>> purdah >>>>>>>>>>>>>> system developed as a defence, and in the course of time evils >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in society >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also developed, but by the good works done by social reformers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from amongst >>>>>>>>>>>>>> us much of our evil treatment of our women was abolished. It is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nature of humans to rationalize their venomous intentions by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> putting the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blame on the victim. The majority of our people are not like >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tolerant and free and that is the reason that we are progressing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> greatly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:58 AM, archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> China? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 7:13:51 PM UTC, facilitator >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Article: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Blaming women for rape is what hundreds of millions of men >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here are taught to believe. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the code for women in this country is simple: Dress >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modestly, don't go out at night, don't go to bars and clubs, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't go out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alone. If you break the code, you will be blamed for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequences. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When one of the four men sentenced to death for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> high-profile gang rape of the woman in 2012 was quoted in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new documentary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as saying "a girl is far more responsible for rape than a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boy," he was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeating something community and religious leaders in this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nation of 1.2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billion routinely say. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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