On the language axis you see no gap but changes. Because the speakers change it. Old book language is facing new problems at the moment.
Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb Chris Jenkins : > I'm sure you're right. The generation gap is likely more language than > anything else. Words have meaning, but that meaning changes. > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 1:23 PM, gabbydott <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> Word usage and meaning is not a static thing, Chris. The big boy or big >> girl pattern identifies you as not raised or reflected on ageism, sexism >> and hierarchical Macht (power, potency, force) dimensions in communication >> in general. You are fine in your local ecosystem with that. >> That's what it translates to me. I doubt your children will use it the >> old-school way you do. >> >> Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb Chris Jenkins : >> >>> I suppose the demeaning part just doesn't translate. "You're a big boy" >>> is a pretty common phrase in use here when describing someone's competence >>> or capability, not maturity or intelligence. >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Allan already admitted he was using it as a way to tell Gabby to grow >>>> up. If you call a grown woman a big girl or girl, it is demeaning because >>>> you are implying they are immature or not as intelligent. If you call a >>>> three year old a big girl, they may appreciate you noticing that they are >>>> growing up. No brainer. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:15:27 PM UTC-4, Chris Jenkins wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hold up, now, there has to be SOME understanding of colloquial use of >>>>> language if there's any hope to achieve common ground. "Big boy" and "Big >>>>> girl" are very much colloquial ways to describe someone who is grown up >>>>> and >>>>> capable of taking care of themselves. It's not specifically gendered for >>>>> the purpose of gender, and it's not the same casual usage of "girl" which >>>>> causes offense to those sensitive to such. >>>>> >>>>> The language police have become much more aggressive, I see. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Allan, calling a woman a girl is well known to be gender insensitive. >>>>> If you don't think so, suggest you brush up or this may not be the last >>>>> time you are called out for it. If indeed we are all supportive for human >>>>> rights, we can bring ourselves to be sensitive to what the other feels >>>>> when >>>>> bearing the brunt of our words. Here in the states, calling a man a boy >>>>> can >>>>> get you in a great deal of trouble depending on the color of your skin and >>>>> the region that your feet are currently planted upon. Words do matter, and >>>>> claiming what is said is said in jest or is insignificant is an age old >>>>> way >>>>> to discount the reality of inequity, and always shows itself to be exactly >>>>> what it is to people with attitudes that truly support human rights. So >>>>> many of our words come to us through social conditioning, we don't >>>>> understand the origin or inequity. It is incumbent on each of us to try. >>>>> Tolerance of biased or abusive attitudes creates cultures of inequity. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 11:59:10 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>> >>>>> To me all " big girl " is saying is she is an adult and of female >>>>> gender.. nothing more.. unless may be grow up. No different some one >>>>> telling me I am a big boy.. >>>>> >>>>> But if i say the sun is shining Gabby is offended.. if she is offended >>>>> i will stop using it.. >>>>> >>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 4:38 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I have to go with Gabby on this one. Calling her a big girl is >>>>> gender insensitive and demeaning. >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 11:27:40 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am trying to find out why our big girl Gabby is so bothered be me?? >>>>> Is Gabby's soul felling a bit guilty over what..that is a real question.. >>>>> >>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 4:16 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. >>>>> >>>>> Do you have false teeth by any chance Gabby? If so, could you have a >>>>> second set made, then you could leave them in situ after biting his ass, >>>>> and save the rest of us from the thiedium? >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 2:05:11 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Big girl - that's not my wording, not my style, not how I view myself. >>>>> It's true, I was trying to make a constructive suggestion to get us >>>>> out of your barking at us and twisting our words to draw the focus >>>>> of attention to your soul perspective. Can you think of another solution >>>>> so >>>>> we others do not have to constantly feel attacked? >>>>> >>>>> Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb : >>>>> >>>>> If you want the topic opened, open it Gabby. You keep telling me you >>>>> are a big girl.. >>>>> >>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]> >>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 2:34 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. >>>>> >>>>> Soul is a place holder for "guilty conscious" in this context here, I >>>>> suppose. I suggest you open a thread with the header "soul" and you >>>>> collect >>>>> all the different meanings you have identified us others associate with >>>>> it. >>>>> We would also profit from it by being able to go there when in need of >>>>> translation options for your "soul" usage. And you could be sure it was >>>>> your very own translation that is being used by the others. What do you >>>>> think? >>>>> >>>>> Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb : >>>>> >>>>> When people do wrong knowing they justify it because their soul knows >>>>> it is wrong and they should not be doing it. >>>>> >>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >>>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 8:57 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. >>>>> >>>>> Sure Allan, but these criminals seek excuses to justify themselves to >>>>> others and themselves. As a matter of fact there is no excuse for any >>>>> crime >>>>> and a criminal has to bear the consequences of his act. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:02 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There is no justification for rape in any form or of any gender. >>>>> >>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >>>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 3:36 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. >>>>> >>>>> The women dressing sense developed in the west gradually and it was >>>>> not copying others but an indigenous matter and as it was a gradual >>>>> process >>>>> the western society as a whole was able to accept it. But in India it was >>>>> not so, some educated girls started copying the west and Indian society as >>>>> a whole was not prepared for it, and that is the reason that some backward >>>>> sections of our society find it unacceptable, but still it has nothing to >>>>> do with rape, which is a criminal act and done by criminal people. The >>>>> reasons that such people give for it is just a justification for their >>>>> criminal deed and not the real reason. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 6:21 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The argument that there are rapes in India because girls are not >>>>> raised up as equals with comparison to boys is not correct. If today girls >>>>> are entering into the workforce is not as a result of girls asserting >>>>> themselves but because their families are giving them a chance to make a >>>>> career for themselves. The parents, brothers, and husbands are >>>>> co-operating >>>>> with the girls, they are encouraging the girls to go out and become career >>>>> girls and this is not limited to just the urban population but also >>>>> applicable to villagers. Consider the position of women a few centuries >>>>> back in Europe and America, they were just housewives and were not >>>>> encouraged to become doctors and engineers. 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